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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Day 2 at Trumpapalooze
Date: 09/11/26 4:54 PM
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Yes embracing racism and hatred, protecting pedophiles, losing another costly war in the Middle East, causing the deaths of millions of children, destroying Americas standing in the world, driving many hundreds of thousands of Americans into poverty all while bankrupting the country and driving up interest rates was the right choice for them. Sure. #WINNING

Yes, because they want a lot of things that the Administration did deliver. They wanted America to more aggressive with allies, they wanted us to cut back on foreign aid and support, they wanted different policy on border control (one of the most salient issues in the election and the one where Trump actually implemented the biggest change, but didn't make your list), they wanted a change in American culture on a host of issued that fall under "woke," they wanted changes in federal government policy on abortion, etc. They don't think these policy changes are racist or embrace hatred, and believe that the benefits to things like strict immigration enforcement and border control are vastly more important than the costs that come from them.

As noted in another thread, it's sometimes useful to be able to represent fairly the views of people who have different views than you do. For example, tariffs absolutely do have some negative effects. They drive up costs for purchasers. But that's true of all taxes, even the ordinary sales taxes that nearly all states use to provide needed revenues for governmental services. The argument in favor of tariffs is that they promote "onshoring" - repatriation of goods and services that have moved abroad - which can have "pre-distributive" effects.

Now personally, I think this is a terrible policy. Because to me, it seems obvious that the costs of the tariffs vastly outweigh those ostensible pre-distributive benefits. But I will admit that as someone who isn't affected much by globalization, and who benefits from the lower costs of tradeable goods without suffering any of the negative effects of being disintermediated, I have a very different ranking of priorities over which is more important than someone who is in an industry that might benefit from protective tariffs. Or than someone who simply empathizes more with the industries and communities that might so benefit - that have a conception of what a Good Society is that emphasizes self-reliance and independence over globalization and interconnectedness. These are value judgments, and different voters have different conceptions of what's important to them.
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