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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Dope1 ⎊  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Who will fight for you?
Date: 10/29/24 3:03 PM
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It was stolen/wasted by Hamas.

With the willing participants of groups like UNRWA, who helped them every step of the way. IIRC the Israelis are throwing them out, and rightfully so.

They're the dictatorship that is ruling by force a small portion (less than 20%) of the Palestinian people. The fact that Hamas is terrible, that Hamas has wasted billions of dollars on guns instead of butter, does not invalidate the legitimate demands for autonomy and self-determination of the millions of Palestinians both inside and outside Gaza.

Sure...but.
The 'but' part is that millions of Palestinians root for and support Hamas. That needs to stop, yesterday.

You can't say that because Hamas is evil, the Palestinians don't have a legitimate claim to self-determination. Because the Palestinian people don't control Hamas. That's why conflicts involving non-state actors are so horrifically complex to resolve. Hamas is doing horrific things, but those horrific things don't - and can't - be attributed to the Palestinian people as a whole, because they have no role whatsoever in the governance or decision making of Hamas.

Unfortunately that's neither here nor there at the moment. There's no universe where a Gaza is going to have any form of self-determination while maintaining even a molecule of Hamas left unchecked. Not going to happen.
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