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No. of Recommendations: 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let the investigation play out.
Enough is enough. This time, the guy
-Knew Trump was playing golf that day
-Knew what hole he was on
-Knew where to set up for a shot
…and had an insanely unsecured perimeter to do it on.
Time to start firing people at the Secret Service.
It’s also time for the media to shut up the Nazi and other BS rhetoric.
No. of Recommendations: 15
It’s also time for the media to shut up the Nazi and other BS rhetoric.
Has it occurred to you that the media will shut up about the Nazi and other BS rhetoric when Trump shuts up about the Nazi and other BS rhetoric?
I didn’t think so.
No. of Recommendations: 4
Hey, thanks. I was looking for a candidate for the worst take on the internet and thanks to you I didn’t have to look far.
Good job!
PS: I’m sorry that you’re disappointed the attempt wasn’t successful. <— actually I’m lying right there
No. of Recommendations: 10
I’m sorry that you’re disappointed the attempt wasn’t successful
You are a sick, despicable, twisted and pathetic liar.
I never said that.
I’d say shame on you but obviously you have none.
No. of Recommendations: 3
There’s only one response to events like this but you’re incapable of doing it.
Why? Because you are who you are. The ugly is seared into your soul and it ain’t coming out. Shame, empathy, whatever, you don’t do that; it’s a form of sociopathy. I don’t think there are meds that can help what’s wrong with you.
Run along now. Keep up the rhetoric that does so much to move the country forward.
No. of Recommendations: 5
You are a sick, despicable, twisted and pathetic liar.
Your response proves my above statement.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Seek help. You won’t, but you should.
Meanwhile, lib media is claiming that Trump is to blame for this, which explains the idiot post you made up thread (since we know most of you are just parrots).
No. of Recommendations: 8
Meanwhile, lib media is claiming that Trump is to blame for this, which explains the idiot post you made up thread (since we know most of you are just parrots).
None of the media I read has made this absurd claim.
In fact, the only place I’ve read this absurd claim is in your posts.
No. of Recommendations: 2
No. of Recommendations: 4
X is liberal media? And who the heck is Curtis Houck.
I’ve never visited X and never will.
You lose.
No. of Recommendations: 2
lol. Head in the sand, and too afraid to look.
Run along now. Take a piece of paper, draw an L on it and staple it to your forehead.
No. of Recommendations: 5
I’m sorry that you’re disappointed the attempt wasn’t successful
That's uncalled for and you know it. Don't you? You seem to be mirroring Trump's angry rhetoric more and more. I guess it goes with being in the cult.
No. of Recommendations: 9
tentatively, saw report that the guy with the AK is a Republican. He has a prior arrest in 2002
in Charlotte, armed stand off with police. He had a machine gun in that one.
Suspected of suffering from mental illness. Not sure how accurate this video is, but there are
plenty available to choose from:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrETNZu-O54Trump not MAGA enough for MAGA anymore ?
Karma is a bitch. Stir up violent behavior, don't be surprised when it comes back at ya.
No. of Recommendations: 15
"It’s also time for the media to shut up the Nazi and other BS rhetoric." - Dope
Trump meets with Nazis, regularly retweets Nazi content, and regularly uses words and phrases embraced by Nazis. Dope has a problem when the media accurately reports when Trump does this. Also, there is no evidence that the media accurately reporting on Trump's words and deeds had anything to do with the crazies who have shot at him.
Haitians in Springfield Ohio don't eat pets, yet Trump and his minions have constantly lied about them causing them to get all sorts of death and bomb threats. Dope literally doesn't have an ounce of care that lies of Trump and his minions are threatening the life of other human beings.
Dope has shown who he is.
No. of Recommendations: 5
You are a sick, despicable, twisted and pathetic liar.
You forgot 'predictable' and 'boring.' He's just another dittohead on a dunk-tank bench who thrives on getting splashed.
-sano
No. of Recommendations: 3
Thread was derailed due to triggered folks, so getting it back on track. The media theme seems to be that Trump is himself to blame:
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1835667680080122...(Video of Lester Holt doing just that)
This, of course, is nonsense on stilts and is more indicative of a media all-in for Harris.
Kamala Harris routinely calls Trump a "threat to democracy", as does her former boss, the non-invalid President Biden:
https://redstate.com/terichristoph/2024/09/16/xxxx...Trump is "our greatest national security threat", a "threat to our democracy", etc. Enough is enough.
No. of Recommendations: 2
The suspect - an Act Blue donor, Ukrainian aid fanatic and evidently a Biden/Harris supporter - was able to camp out at the golf course for 12 hours to set up for his shot.
The perimeter sweeping was...lacking...shall we say.
No. of Recommendations: 27
The suspect - an Act Blue donor, Ukrainian aid fanatic and evidently a Biden/Harris supporter - was able to camp out at the golf course for 12 hours to set up for his shot. You left out that he voted for Trump in 2016, was a Trump supporter who broke with him over his lack of support of Ukraine, and is mentally ill.
You also left out that it was Donald Trump who vetoed the bill to stop mentally ill people from buying guns as one of his earliest acts in office.
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/16/nx-s1-5113801/trump...
No. of Recommendations: 4
I'd say give Obama the same security quality Trump has BUT then -- problem is if Harris wins the election we'd have nobody in the Presidency.
No. of Recommendations: 16
The perimeter sweeping was...lacking...shall we say.
Finally. Something I can solidly call bullshit on.
When Trump is out golfing, it takes way too many agents to secure the entire course at once. Instead, they maintain a smaller security bubble around him. That means they're constantly sweeping a new perimeter as he moves around the course. I'll also point out that potential shooter was outside of the fence around the golf course. He was set up to shoot through the chain link fence surrounding the course.
It was one of these perimeter sweeps that caught the nutjob with a rifle.
The sweep wasn't lacking. The agents doing the sweep did their job very well.
--Peter
No. of Recommendations: 1
You left out that he voted for Trump in 2016, was a Trump supporter who broke with him over his lack of support of Ukraine, and is mentally ill.
So he snapped and became a liberal. That's not the flex you think it is.
No. of Recommendations: 13
So he snapped and became a liberal. That's not the flex you think it is.
Bullshit. Becoming a Trump hater does not = becoming a liberal. There are plenty of Uber COnservative and Republican Trump haters.
No. of Recommendations: 13
Dope1: Trump is "our greatest national security threat", a "threat to our democracy", etc. Enough is enough.
Trump has called representative Nancy Pelosi “Crazy Nancy,” “Nervous Nancy an inherently “dumb” person,” a “incompetent political hack,” “Crazy Nancy Pelosi,” “Crazy,” “totally incompetent & controlled by the Radical Left, a weak and pathetic puppet,” “Crazy Nancy Pelosi,” “an incompetent, third-rate politician,” “has allowed her District to go down more than any other in the USA,” “gives us the most unfair trial in the history of the U.S. Congress,” “trying to take over the Senate,” “doesn’t care about American Workers,” is “doing everything possible to destroy the Republican Party,” “tearing the United States apart,” and on and on and on.
Trump said Pelosi is responsible for J6, that she turned down his offer of 10,000 national guard. A lie. To this day he calls her a Marxist, a Communist, and that unless stopped, she will destroy America.
One of his cultists, David DePape, broke into her home. He told police he had planned to break Pelosi's kneecaps if she didn't answer his questions truthfully. She wasn't there so he cracked her husband, Paul Pelosi's skull with a hammer.
Trump then repeated conspiracy theories and joked about the attack, claiming DePape was a male lover of Paul Pelosi's (he wasn't), that the sliding glass doors were broken from the inside out (they weren't), and to this day jokes about the attack.
And you know what: former Reagan officials former Bush 1, Bush 2, and even Trump's own former White House staff say he's a threat to democracy.
No. of Recommendations: 3
The perimeter sweeping was...lacking...shall we say.
Do you EVER listen to real, factual reporting? Get your head out of the FOX 'news' fundament.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Trump has called representative
Trump's called lots of people names, but somehow nobody else is being shot at.
It's telling that you *refuse* to even consider turning down the temperature of your rhetoric. Fine, then.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Trump's called lots of people names, but somehow nobody else is being shot at.
Trump just joins a long list of attempted assassinations of Presidents and other pollies. I'd just ask him if he thinks demonization of immigrants, etc., is working for him enough to risk it. His choice. He seems to think it's worth the risk.
No. of Recommendations: 8
No. of Recommendations: 13
Dope1: Trump's called lots of people names, but somehow nobody else is being shot at.
So having one's skull cracked with a hammer doesn't count then, eh?
How about Trump posting the Obamas home address and Taylor Taranto driving to their Kalorama neighborhood with two guns and hundreds of rounds of nine-millimeter ammunition, a steering wheel lock, and a machete in his van?
Or how about the guy who killed 20 people in a Walmart in El Paso, saying “this attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” mimicking Trump's rhetoric?
Dope1: It's telling that you *refuse* to even consider turning down the temperature of your rhetoric.
Um, what now?
Here's what Trump wrote this morning: The Rhetoric, Lies, as exemplified by the false statements made by Comrade Kamala Harris during the rigged and highly partisan ABC Debate, and all of the ridiculous lawsuits specifically designed to inflict damage on Joe’s, then Kamala’s, Political Opponent, ME, has taken politics in our Country to a whole new level of Hatred, Abuse, and Distrust. Because of this Communist Left Rhetoric, the bullets are flying, and it will only get worse! Allowing millions of people, from places unknown, to INVADE and take over our Country, is an unpardonable sin. OUR BORDERS MUST BE CLOSED, AND THE TERRORISTS, CRIMINALS, AND MENTALLY INSANE, IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM AMERICAN CITIES AND TOWNS, DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR COUNTIES OF ORIGIN. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRY, BUT THEY MUST LOVE OUR NATION, AND COME IN LEGALLY AND THROUGH A SYSTEM OF MERIT. THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US AS FOOLS, THEY ARE STEALING OUR JOBS AND OUR WEALTH. WE CANNOT LET THEM LAUGH ANY LONGER. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Yeah, he's cooling down the rhetoric, isn't he?
Oh, and he also put a big fat target on Taylor Swift, writing I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
You cultists are blind.
Or stupid.
No. of Recommendations: 2
The suspect - an Act Blue donor, Ukrainian aid fanatictrump is definitely gonna trade this dude to putin for some FSB trinket.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/16/pu...on a somber note, this stuff is terrible for the country as a whole because
a. its far better to have a chance for a landslide trump loss than him no longer run.
let's face it, any chance at basic justice is gone unless he loses.
roberts revealed as publicity-shy MAGA, not just a spineless SCOTUS overseer.
b. despite MAGA disdain for math and such, the intersection of nuts and gun-nuts is way higher in the gop.
seems inevitable that a Dem, or random election gatherings, are targeted.
No. of Recommendations: 4
Dope1: Trump's called lots of people names, but somehow nobody else is being shot at.
If Trump the sociopath could get what he wanted by killing a bunch of people (well, having someone else do it for him) he would do it in a minute.
He seemed quite ready to have Mike Pence hanged by his gang of insurrectionists.
You live in a bubble Dope1.
No. of Recommendations: 2
So having one's skull cracked with a hammer doesn't count
You mean the things your Antifa buddies do on a regular basis?
Again, another flex fail.
No. of Recommendations: 8
Dope1: You mean the things your Antifa buddies do on a regular basis?
Well, sure, when you cannot refute the argument that no one has incited more violence in recent American politics than Trump, you might as well play your Antifa card.
No. of Recommendations: 10
Trump's called lots of people names, but somehow nobody else is being shot at.I find this statement quite revealing about the minds of those on the far right, and it’s not flattering. Although the statement was made by Dope1, it echoes similar statements made by Elon Musk and JD Vance.
Basically, the first question that comes to their mind is if a crazy individual is trying to kill one of my guys, why aren’t other crazy individuals trying to kill their guys? Huh?
The question that comes to my mind is why do we allow crazy people to own guns in the first place?
Before I go any further, I want to make one thing crystal clear. I do not condone any violence and, despite the fact that I despise Donald Trump, I am grateful he was not seriously injured or killed in these incidents. My preference for change is using ballots, not bullets.
But I am tired of the false equivalences of the far right and the far right blaming others for their own issues.
What was the very first thing Trump did after being inaugurated president? He made it easier for individuals with mental health issues to own guns.
Prior to this latest incident, Trump called Harris a fascist multiple times at his rallies. He accused Biden of running a Gestapo administration, called his political opponents “vermin”, and stated that immigrants are “poisoning the blood” of the United States.
If any of this rhetoric sounds similar to another far right group, you’re not mistaken. Below is a link that includes a picture (I implore you to check out the picture) of an alleged Nazi sympathizer who stormed the Capital and was invited to Trump’s Bedminster club. Twice!
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/12/nx-s1-5107435/trump...So when the far rights screams that this all someone else’s fault and that they are innocent as lambs, I call BULL.
When the far right says the rhetoric needs to be turned down, I totally agree. All they have to do is to look in a mirror.
No. of Recommendations: 3
er, I want to make one thing crystal clear. I do not condone any violence and, despite the fact that I despise Donald Trump, I am grateful he was not seriously injured or killed in these incidents. My preference for change is using ballots, not bullets.
And then what follows is a rambling justification/bunch of excuses for what’s going on replete with Nazi references. Yeah…thanks for playing.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Here’s the thing. None of you are making an argument. You’re making excuses that lurch toward justifications.
No. of Recommendations: 7
Here’s the thing. None of you are making an argument. You’re making excuses that lurch toward justifications.
Stop lying. I do not justify any violence.
Just because you don’t want to hear my argument doesn’t mean I’m not making an argument.
Yes, the rhetoric needs to cool down, ESPECIALLY BY THOSE MAKING THE MOST HEATED RHETORIC.
If I hold a mirror up to and you don’t like what you see, don’t blame me.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Stop lying. I do not justify any violence.
Please. You wouldn’t mind in the slightest if one these attempts is successful; the fact that you people keep doing the bbbbbut Twump is asking for it is the giveaway.
You forget something. You people have been doing this for 20 years, going all the way back to the Fool and Bush43. The only difference is that now there are more than sufficient crazies on the left to act out on the hate.
No. of Recommendations: 21
Dope1: Here’s the thing. None of you are making an argument.
Your original post told people to stop with the Nazi BS. And we clearly argued that the Nazi stuff is accurate because we're simply quoting Trump's Nazi-like rhetoric.
Even Godwin said the Nazi comparisons are accurate and pertinent. Calling his opponents vermin is straight-out Nazi rhetoric. Repeating that he wants to be a dictator -- which are his own words -- is not BS.
Here's what Trump wrote on Truth Social within the last 24 hours:
Illegal Migrants who are POURING INTO OUR COUNTRY, in record numbers, are taking the JOBS away from Black and Hispanic people who have held them for years. It is devastating for the Black and Hispanic patriots of our Nation. These jobs are not replaceable, and never will be because, under Comrade Kamala Harris, the Border will be WIDE OPEN and there will always be more people coming in, many of them terrorists and criminals, than jobs available. KAMALA IS KILLING BLACK AND HISPANIC HERITAGE, SHE IS KILLING THEIR LEGACY AND THEIR RIGHTS. REGISTER AND VOTE FOR YOUR ALL TIME FAVORITE PRESIDENT, ME. NOVEMBER 5TH WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT DAY IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Also...
The Rhetoric, Lies, as exemplified by the false statements made by Comrade Kamala Harris during the rigged and highly partisan ABC Debate, and all of the ridiculous lawsuits specifically designed to inflict damage on Joe’s, then Kamala’s, Political Opponent, ME, has taken politics in our Country to a whole new level of Hatred, Abuse, and Distrust. Because of this Communist Left Rhetoric, the bullets are flying, and it will only get worse! Allowing millions of people, from places unknown, to INVADE and take over our Country, is an unpardonable sin. OUR BORDERS MUST BE CLOSED, AND THE TERRORISTS, CRIMINALS, AND MENTALLY INSANE, IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM AMERICAN CITIES AND TOWNS, DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR COUNTIES OF ORIGIN. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRY, BUT THEY MUST LOVE OUR NATION, AND COME IN LEGALLY AND THROUGH A SYSTEM OF MERIT. THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US AS FOOLS, THEY ARE STEALING OUR JOBS AND OUR WEALTH. WE CANNOT LET THEM LAUGH ANY LONGER. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
If you want us to stop calling him a dictator, he shouldn't say he'll be a dictator. If you don't want us to compare him to Hitler, he should stop quoting Hitler and stop threatening to throw his opponents in prison or execute them. If you want to see the rhetoric toned down, talk to the guy who's used heated rhetoric as a political tool since 2016.
Simple, really.
But since he's a malignant narcissist, he is pathologically unable to stop.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Your original post told people to stop with the Nazi BS.
That's right. And yet you keep on...doing it.
It's not like this is something new for you people. I know you well enough to know that many of you really, really, really hate Team Republican. How do I know that?
Because calling people you don't like a Nazi has been your playbook for 20 years.
It's time to grow up. Speaking of pathologically unable to stop...look in the mirror.
No. of Recommendations: 8
Dope:"Because calling people you don't like a Nazi has been your playbook for 20 years. "
Germany banned Nazi-ism after WW2. The USA did not. The neo-nazis and their sympathizers never left. Nazis were nazis then. NeoNazis are neonazis now.
Nazis, neo-nazis and their sympathizers do not get a pass just because time has elapsed since WW2.
They are what they are.
No. of Recommendations: 13
Wow. You missed the whole part where he accurately quoted the convict. He quotes Hitler, he talks about revenge against his enemies, he calls groups of people "vermin", and he is -surprise surprise- supported by the likes of the Daily Stormer.
In short, if you want us to "stop with the NAZI BS", your candidate should probably stop with the NAZI BS.
No. of Recommendations: 3
In short, if you want us to "stop with the NAZI BS"
Thanks for owning up to it.
You missed the point. Trump is who Trump is and nobody defends his name calling.
left wingers claim to be better than him...but guess what? They're not.
No. of Recommendations: 7
left wingers claim to be better than him...but guess what? They're not.
Actually, left wingers are better than him. Most of them. As are most right-wingers. As are most humans on the planet. That's not a high bar to clear.
Yes, I own it. I've been saying since 2016 that his rhetoric and tactics are right out of the National Socialist Worker's Party playbook. The Atlantic even wrote an article about it (though I noticed the parallels a couple of months before they published!). The other poster backed up his statements with verifiable facts, so I won't repeat them. Face it, your candidate may not call himself a NAZI, but he has the rhetoric and attitude of one.
That doesn't excuse anyone shooting at him, but it's still a fact.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Actually, left wingers are better than him.
Not in this case, it would seem.
This also isn't new. I've been reading the same HitlerNazi nonsense from the same posters for 20 years now. It doesn't matter who the Republican is they'll always find an excuse to turn on the HateFountain and let it flow.
I also vivdly remember the not-so-gleeful responses on PA to little old ladies being attacked by mask-clad Antifa goons when leaving Trump rallies. And the loud and obnoxious protests at Trump Administration officials' homes and when in restaurants. The left has been building up their appetite for political violence for decades.
No. of Recommendations: 9
You missed the point.
No, I get the point.
Trump is not responsible for actually quoting Nazi propaganda but his opponents are responsible because we tell the truth about Trump quoting Nazi propaganda.
Weird.
No. of Recommendations: 2
No. You don't get the point.
Being a liberal makes you an emotional creature to begin with. Take that to 11 and you get the Crooks and Rouths and God knows who all else is running around out there.
You people have been casually issuing blood insults for 20 years and demonizing your political opponents as this and that the entire time. Now, the nutjobs - which makes up for a not small number of leftists - is taking your words seriously.
And none of you people care. It's all victim blaming for you. All that's on you, not Trump.
Next thing you're be justifying some lunatic taking a run at people leaving a Trump rally. You're almost ready to convince yourself that they'll have it coming merely for being there...in fact, some of you are beyond that point.
No. of Recommendations: 11
"So he snapped and became a liberal. That's not the flex you think it is."
Dope1
Rather than engage the point of misrepresentation & distortion, Dope1 retreats to the safety of sophomoric name-calling. That's an engine that is starved for fuel. There is a certain subset of an opposition that is not really interested in the give & take that can test ideas and veracity.
That subset is what I would call "the carnival". The carnival is not for everyone.
The carnival was often required to set up on the outside of town - the beyond.
In this respect, engagement with Dope1 is like a ticket to see the bearded lady.
CmoreBmore
No. of Recommendations: 2
Dope1 retreats to the safety of sophomoric name-calling
...followed by...
engagement with Dope1 is like a ticket to see the bearded lady.
Yeah, okay. You have nothing to add but more of the same. <click>
No. of Recommendations: 6
Being a liberal makes you an emotional creature to begin with.
So I must not be a liberal. Huh. Well, by European standards I am not.
Though, humans are emotional creatures, except perhaps for psychopaths. A good chunk of our brains are for processing emotions. At least four regions of the brain are involved.
Reps and Dems have been going at each other for generations. Bush Sr actually managed to make the term "liberal" a pejorative during one of his campaigns, and since then many people associate "liberal" with "evil" or "bad" or some other negative descriptor. I don't know what a "blood insult" is, but you (and most conservatives) throw the word around as an insult. When it's not. It's just a simplistic way of describing a set of social and economic values/policies.
Heck, even "NAZI" isn't an insult if it's an accurate descriptor.
No. of Recommendations: 8
Being a liberal makes you an emotional creature to begin with.
Dope, dope, dope...
Can you for once post something fact related and not childishly silly?
Seems to me you are the one with the hair trigger emotions. And all in the service of loyalty to the most corrupt, incompetent and un-American politician this country has ever seen.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Blood insults are generally things you reserve for your worst enemies. left wingers on the Fool and, sadly, around here throw them around left and right.
Then the left turns around and complains about how mean the Bad Orange Man is, lol.
No. of Recommendations: 6
That subset is what I would call "the carnival". The carnival is not for everyone.
In this respect, engagement with Dope1 is like a ticket to see the bearded lady.
Right place, but more like the geek on the dunk tank bench. He has the whole bag of tricks - all the fallacies & misinformation - to maintain engagement; to keep you buying 3 more balls for buck.
The more you dunk him, the more outrageous and inflammatory he will become...anything to get you to validate his act, drop another dollar.
