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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Dope1 ⎊  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Yet more meltdowns
Date: 11/22/24 7:19 PM
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Interesting set of numbers... so for those keeping score
Deportations/removals under Trump 1: about 3.3M
Deportations/removals under Biden: about 5M

somehow this does not fit with the trump marketing warped perspective.

Interesting.
Does "deportation" mean the same thing from administration to administration?

I'll help you: it doesn't.
latimes.com - La na obama deportations story

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009.

Hmm...how can that be?

On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

That's how.
Because you folks never question what you're told, you accept everything. And you're manipulated because of it.

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