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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 2:08 PM
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Vaccine requirements for kids --- to be waived in Florida.

I guess the Right is into late term abortion.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 2:21 PM
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That's pretty stupid. I haven't read up on this to see if that's what's really being done (since we know the media lies and if full of runny sh1t), but on its face that's a dumb idea.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 2:32 PM
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That's pretty stupid.

Because Kennedy has withdrawn the recommendations for Covid vax, for everyone except the elderly and people with other health issues, there is a real question about whether insurance will pay for a vax, for anyone else.

Extrapolate that to every other vax.

Of course, DeSantis does plenty of pandering to knuckle draggers himself. Remember when cruise lines mandated passengers and crew have a covid vax, and DeSantis outlawed the cruise line's reg? The ships either could not enforce their reg, for the health of their own crews, or could not load passengers in Florida.

Steve
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 2:37 PM
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That's pretty stupid. I haven't read up on this to see if that's what's really being done (since we know the media lies and if full of runny sh1t), but on its face that's a dumb idea.

https://www.fox8live.com/2025/09/03/florida-will-w...
https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5484068-flo...

I'm glad my kids are old enough that they will avoid personally experiencing the worst of this. But it won't be more than a few years before the first Florida kid unnecessarily dies from measles. You know - for freedom.
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 2:38 PM
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Yes Dope, as i'm open about i dont' read past the headlines so i can't say the details. I just dont care about tribal 3rd world news. I've been this way since perhaps....2014-2015 ish.

I Insta-idiots have become 24/7 political commentators know. So i sort of lost a bit of interest.

But if it's true --it's stupid.

This is what i mean about - I *love* some of the stuff we're doing - stuff i used to want even in the late 90's on TMF.

BUT the Trailer Park and Taliban have gotten to critical mass on our side.

Just my opinion

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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 2:40 PM
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Glad your kids are out of the Taliban's line of fire.

I've still got 2 teens mind you we never have seen a vaccine we didn't like.

And parents, will sacrifice kdis and deny it had anything to do with vaccines

Tribalism...... they listen to their Muftis.

Indeed, just one of the 3rd world traits --- I know, no Google link to verify it. But it's true. People's faces show the 3rd world creep.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 3:59 PM
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Dmned right it’s stupid, Dope.

Children in Florida will no longer be required to receive vaccines against preventable diseases including measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio and hepatitis said Joseph Ladapo, the state’s surgeon general, on Wednesday in a speech during which he likened vaccine mandates to “slavery”.

Ladapo, hand-picked for the role by Ron DeSantis, Florida’s Republican governor, is a long-time skeptic of the benefit of vaccines, and has previously been accused of peddling “scientific nonsense” by public health advocates.


In his announcement on Wednesday, at a press conference in Tampa hosted by DeSantis, he said that every state vaccine requirement would be repealed, and that he expected the move would receive the blessing “of God”.

“Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery,”


(Oh look, he even includes a tip o the hat to “liberal plantations)

said Ladapo, who altered data in a 2022 study about Covid-19 vaccines in an attempt to exaggerate the risk to young men who took one.

“People have a right to make their own decisions. Who am I, as a government or anyone else, to tell you what you should put in your body? Our body is a gift from God. What you put into your body is because of your relationship with your body and your God.”

Ladapo condemned lockdowns and vaccination requirements during the coronavirus pandemic as a time “when crazy things did happen”, and said that growing skepticism of vaccines were “reflections of God’s light against the darkness of tyranny and oppression”.

Formerly affiliated with the controversial ultra-conservative America’s Frontline Doctors group, Ladapo has long railed against Covid-19 vaccines. In 2023, he urged Florida residents to ignore public health advice and reject mRNA booster shots that he falsely claimed had not been tested on humans.


Your boy DeSantis really picked a ripe one for his Surgeon General.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 4:02 PM
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In his announcement on Wednesday, at a press conference in Tampa hosted by DeSantis, he said that every state vaccine requirement would be repealed, and that he expected the move would receive the blessing “of God”.

May I just say: FUCKING STUPID!

We really are living in Idiocracy.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 4:12 PM
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Children in Florida will no longer be required to receive vaccines against preventable diseases including measles, mumps, chicken pox, polio and hepatitis said Joseph Ladapo, the state’s surgeon general, on Wednesday in a speech during which he likened vaccine mandates to “slavery”.

Then this is one of the few things DeSantis has done that's really stupid. Measles? Come on.

Polio they don't give out shots for any more IIRC and chicken pox isn't anything to be afraid of (although you are at risk for shingles later, which reminds me, I need my shingles vaccine now that I'm over 50).

This is an example of a counter-reaction that defies the actual science, and it's too bad.
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 4:41 PM
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What's happening is that right now, MAGA is the soup du jour vis a vis the REpublican Primary voter.

Everyone is trying to be the tribe's next Mufti.

Ivy Leaguers saying 'we dont need no vaccine, we're with the common man'--- and then as a gift to them, the opposition tribe does the He/Him "Garcia!" etc stuff.

And the band plays on.
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Author: Steve203 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 4:55 PM
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This is an example of a counter-reaction that defies the actual science, and it's too bad.

The father of an old g/f of mine has an interesting pic on his FB page. He's wearing a t-shirt that says "science is not a liberal conspiracy".

What got us here? Pandering to a base that has been carefully nurtured by Fox Noise, which, itself, panders to the most ignorant and bigoted.

Steve
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 5:11 PM
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What got us here? Pandering to a base that has been carefully nurtured by Fox Noise, which, itself, panders to the most ignorant and bigoted.

Right, because the left wing follows the science, yessireeee.

Most left wingers don't know "Science" from a Pop Tart (other than to say the pop tart has frosting on it). But since they took a High School class on "Science" they're all Sooper Experts on most things.

But what it really comes down to is to be able to virtue signal that you're in with the "it" crowd. An actual, functional understanding of the thing you're professing your love for isn't required. Just the signal to the rest of the herd of lemmings that You're On Their Team is enough.

And *that's* who the left panders to.
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 5:26 PM
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Polio they don't give out shots for any more IIRC

Wrong. The CDC still recommends four shots from age 2 months to 6 years.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 5:33 PM
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Wrong.

Thanks for the correction. Was thinking of something else.
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Author: onepoorguy   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/03/2025 9:13 PM
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Thanks for the correction. Was thinking of something else.

Probably smallpox. That is the only disease that is considered eradicated. Polio was getting close, but various anti-science factions globally have enabled a resurgence in some areas.

If I were a parent to a young child, I'd have a long talk with the pediatrician before not having the child vaccinated against smallpox. As it is, 1poorkid got both smallpox and polio, and HPV, and everything else available.
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/04/2025 8:15 AM
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What got us here? Pandering to a base that has been carefully nurtured by Fox Noise, which, itself, panders to the most ignorant and bigoted.
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LOL

Trump's campaign people are here.
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/04/2025 8:17 AM
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We really are living in Idiocracy.
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Yes.

BUT in a civilization without a common culture or basic common civics appreciation, and a society that due to various socioevconomic trends is Balkanizing, the various tribes will embrace their Muftis no matter what.

And the Muftis are smart on all sides.

In this case. a well educated Governor - and others like him want to be the next President and they see command of the MAGA caste as the route to that goal. So they pander and embrace the 'i'm stupid, and proud of it" motto.

This shit has happened in 3rd world civilizations for centuries.

It's your turn now - self caused.

HAHA
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Pro Choice MAGA
Date: 09/04/2025 10:03 AM
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I'm glad my kids are old enough that they will avoid personally experiencing the worst of this. But it won't be more than a few years before the first Florida kid unnecessarily dies from measles. You know - for freedom.

But we won't. Us old guys will face a bevy of new disease incubators surrounding us, so we have to get what protective shots we can get. The herd protection won't be there, and we'll be part of that experiment. I still remember being shocked that my brother had become antivaxx for Covid, not sure about the rest. It's like talking directly to Dope - you don't want to do that, keep the internet between you. Stupidity is on parade.

I have lead a protected life. In the Phils, I could see wasting in the kids down in the fishing village, but I was still surprised at the amount of TB, and in adults too. Every time they tested incoming fishing crews, half the boat had TB, and they'd get treatments, but they were setting up individualized cloth separations inside tents. And sometimes just open air cloth partitions. We should deport all anti-vaxxers. that's the ticket.
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