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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: NeoCons, "Israel!" and Republicans
Date: 03/30/26 4:23 PM
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Really? My doctors don't always require me to provide one.

See? There you go. There's the logical AND at work. Your population for no ID just went down again.

"You may fire when you are ready, Gridley"...maybe our theoretical dude heard that first hand.

It's about 1% of the population. About 2.6 million people:

Uh, huh. So your "tens of millions" claim was just cut by over 5x due to the power of AND.

Let's whittle it down some more:
Nearly 21 million voting-age U.S. citizens do not have a current (non-expired) driver’s license

How many of them have a passport, a passport card, or a non-driving state ID?


And they will vastly outnumber the unbelievably miniscule number of people who engage in fraudulent in-person voting.

You're having difficulty proving your first claim, so now let's go shooting at this one.

For starters, you have zero idea who shouldn't be voting because we...don't have a verification check that involves secure identification.
What if we did? Would we see stuff like this:
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/12/23/fulton...

ATLANTA, Ga. (Atlanta News First) — Fulton County officials admitted they did not properly sign tabulator tapes after the 2020 election, a violation of state regulations. The county also noted it had misplaced other tabulator tapes and documents related to the controversial election.

The admission was made by county attorney Ann Brumbaugh during a Dec. 9, 2025, meeting of the State Elections Board.

Tabulator tapes are essentially receipts printed from ballot tabulation machines that help to verify the number of voters matches the number of votes. They are a key piece of the verification and certification process in every county election across the state.

Georgia regulations state that a poll manager and two witnesses must be present for the printing, checking and signing of each tape from the machines.

RELATED: Justice Department files lawsuit against Fulton County for 2020 election records

“We do not dispute that the tapes were not signed. It was a violation of the rule,” Brumbaugh said. “They should have done it.”

According to Brumbaugh, since the 2020 vote, the county has made significant changes to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

“Procedures have been updated. People are taking this very seriously now,” she said. “Since then, the training has been enhanced, the poll watchers are trained specifically. They’ve got to sign the tapes in the morning, and they’ve got to sign the tapes when they’re run at the end of the day.”

Causing more concern, the unsigned tapes — around 130 of them from voting machines — accounted for some 315,000 early voters in 2020, almost every ballot cast before Election Day.

“At best, this is sloppy and lazy,” said Janelle King, a Republican member of the State Elections Board. “At worst, it could be egregious, and it could have affected an election.”


The left always waves their hands and inflates the numbers of people who can't possibly be bothered to get photo ID, then also waves their hands and pretends that voting irregularity never exists or is "miniscule".

Me, I'd like to err on the side of secure ballots. The democrats' values are different.


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