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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: anchak   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Zee's $BPNYA
Date: 04/11/25 5:24 PM
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Tails....Many thanks for that pic link!

Yes - I see that Zee actually has that column ( its the 6% FIXED one).

However, this is the food for thought - and pardon me, I'll fall back to probability a bit to try and explain the conundrum here:

The 2 conditions lets say are A and B with B being the confirm.

The issue is P(A) and P( A & B) ie both signals happening are actually equal ( From a event window perspective). ie A actually has implied B.(you can confirm this from the bottom panel in my pic -since it plots the BPNYA)

This is what I was trying to illustrate from the chart ..... ie if the Confirmer was actually an ADDITIONAL SAFETY switch then :P(A&B) < P(A) ie

Simple Speak: Cases where the signal gave a false positive B wouldn't have fired.You can see all the way upto 2007 that's not the case.

The Mid-May 2022 is a pristine example of this ( ie False-Positive)

(1) 5/12: MY O/S indicator fires - Green Circle
(2) 5/13: +6% relative reversal fires ( Blue up triangle) and signal from Spreadsheet
(3) 5/17: Fixed +6 : Confirmation (Spreadsheet)
(4) 6/2 : Short term TOP [Chart, S&P500]
(5) 6/7 : BPNYA ST Top : 50.31 ( > 2x from O/S level and this is fairly CONSISTENT!)
(6) 6/10: Bear signal[Spreadsheet]
(7) 6/13 : EXIT , with whipsaw

Also being a bit familiar with Zee's work - he has a plethora of indicators , and he wouldn't have used this BPNYA drop as his only EXIT point. Similarly he uses other confirmatory ones.

Net Surmise: The +6% relative is the best usage of this - because the confirmatory signal actually doesnt really add much or save you from a potential False-Positive. You can see the signal itself STANDALONE is pretty kick-ass! (Just count the # of Yellow markers I drew compared to the Bottom Blue triangles and you will see the false rate)
But its anticipatory in nature - so in Bears you will have to accept the risk of the potential falsies.

Hope this made sense!
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