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https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5777813-democ...Wow.
"Newsom’s squirming over AIPAC is a warning for pro-Israel Democrats"
IF he sticks to that, ugh, I'd have to support his candidacy and just look the other way on the pronoun stuff.
Mind you it's a long road ahead and he could still be enslaved if he feels he must.
Would be interesting to see if he stays this way, and becomes the nominee even though I feel he might be peaking a bit early. If he stays away from being a slave, that means AIPAC will have to use the crucifix-mini-skirt toting trailer park on the Right more than they ever have.
Interesting stuff to watch.
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Just out of curiosity, why is the pronoun stuff a big deal? Just curious.
I'll use whatever pronoun someone wants me to use when referring to them, just as I'll use whatever name/nickname they want me to use. 1poorkid's best friend is named "Meghan", but she doesn't go by "Meghan". She has a nickname, and everyone calls her that. Fine with me. If she wanted to be called "they", it's not a big deal to me (she doesn't; that was just an example).
Heck, I'll go so far as to try to use the correct names of people who have an "American" name because we Americans can't be bothered to learn their proper name. Unless they particularly want me to use their American name, of course. Over my life I have had to try to master a few tongue-twisters, but that's my problem. Not theirs. (One year in grad school my roommate was Thai...first name was easy, last name was really long.)
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It's the vanity. The peer pressure to use pronouns.
It's peddling the he/him stuff to kids --- who many times aren't even learning proper reading and math.
A girl is a girl. A boy, is a boy.
It's the whole "Liberal Taliban " package - no different than the Conservative Taliban Package - bible this, Jesus that, embryo rights, etc etc etc.
But if you want to keep having that discussion fine.....
Me? I want swing voters.
I want red voters.
Seems Liberals - don't. When the price to pay ---is so tiny and the rewards -- are Bigly .
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It's the vanity. The peer pressure to use pronouns.
I don't want to "peddle" this stuff. Until the right had a conniption, I never gave it a second thought. I call people what they ask me to call them. If you're name is Rodger, and I call you "Rodge", and you say "no, it's Rodger". It would be extremely rude of me to persist with "Rodge".
I don't think it's liberals making this an issue. It's the so-called conservatives. Liberals are just calling people what they want to be called, be it pronouns or hyphenations or whatever.
I agree with you that conservatives have managed (somehow!) to make this an issue, but it really isn't. It's about as much of a non-issue as it is possible to be.
As for kids, the bluer states have better educational outcomes than the redder states. So I don't think pronouns are hurting them much. Teaching the bible instead of algebra and biology is hurting them a lot more.
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ONE---sorry I didn't realize this isn't the political board. I am sorry won't comment more here.
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The fight over pronouns is just ridiculous. Just respect other people, people!
There have been some mistakes in gender-affirming care, I think. The use of puberty blockers does not have good evidence behind it. Sex really is, for the most part, binary. Gender can be a spectrum.
There absolutely is a peer-pressure contagion towards transgender identification in high schools, especially among females. My family has some experience with this. In our case mental health challenges and gender dysphoria went hand in hand. It seems the dysphoria isn't a big issue when the mental health is stable, so far, at least. It's day to day.
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I don't think it's liberals making this an issue. It's the so-called conservatives. Liberals are just calling people what they want to be called, be it pronouns or hyphenations or whatever.
That is just not accurate. In the DEI heyday of 4-5 years ago, the liberal "regime" of pronouns became standard policy at most large organizations, especially public and non-profit. Employees were at least encouraged to include she/her/hers / he/him/his / they/them/theirs in email signatures. It was "optional", but if you didn't, well... you were quietly labeled by the politically correct powerful as anti-DEI, non-conformist, or... conservative.
Beyond that, the waves of mandatory diversity training courses, with attendance tracked by management, etc etc.
It wasn't just the so-called enlightened "liberals calling people what they want to be called". It was "AND making it required for EVERYONE to call people what they want to be called" and "RE-EDUCATING the (evil) people who didn't want to do that on how Goodthink it was."
THAT'S what conservatives objected to.
FC
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It wasn't just the so-called enlightened "liberals calling people what they want to be called". It was "AND making it required for EVERYONE to call people what they want to be called" and "RE-EDUCATING the (evil) people who didn't want to do that on how Goodthink it was."
THAT'S what conservatives objected to.
Bullcrap. Every time I've responded to this by calling conservatives other than what they wanted to be called, they objected. None have ever responded with 'I don't want to require you to refer to me in any particular way, so that's fine.' Conservatives want rigid gender roles and people to be forced to conform to those gender roles.
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That is just not accurate. In the DEI heyday of 4-5 years ago, the liberal "regime" of pronouns became standard policy at most large organizations, especially public and non-profit. Employees were at least encouraged to include she/her/hers / he/him/his / they/them/theirs in email signatures. It was "optional", but if you didn't, well... you were quietly labeled by the politically correct powerful as anti-DEI, non-conformist, or... conservative.
I don't think so. I've corresponded with government folk in their official capacity and never got a letter that had he/him/his, etc., it was all sparklingly neutral, just like I wrote for 30 years. And as for the obligatory courses, it's just an addition, might take 15 minutes, if it actually changed anything. I remember I had to stop saying oriental in the gov, we all laughed, but I switched to Asian Pacific Islander. I groused and said I wanted to be called Caucasian European American because it was longer. But it was an easy switch No biggee. Outside a Outside of a few areas of the government and corporate, it isn't noticeable. People are generally polite at work.
It's y'all making it into a wedge issue that's the problem part. I had no problem with trans in the Philippines, they're quite accepted, but made fun of just a little bit.
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Bullcrap back. Enough of the tarring of others and name calling.
