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Author: ptheland 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Epstein - Trump is Trapped
Date: 11/18/25 2:24 PM
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No one will believe the Administration or any of their proxies.

That's the gist of the issue. Everyone knows that Trump and his administration lie constantly. Even if those lies are simply overstating things for sales purposes. ;-)

Trumpers see the lies and don't care, since the lies benefit them and keep their preferred politicians in power and their preferred issues in the headlines.
Not-Trumpers see the lies and can't believe that Trumpers don't care about them and allow them to continue.

But now that history of lying is coming back to bite. Trumpers want to see the names of all of their opponents in the Epstein files. Not-Trumpers want to see the name "Trump" in the files. But as you have said many times, it's quite possible that there aren't a bunch of prominent liberal leaning politicians in the files. It may only be a couple. And it's quite possible that we've seen all there is to see about Trump in the files. There may not be anything more.

That situation would be deeply unsatisfying to many people on both sides of the aisle. Conspiracy theories could start flying left and right.

Let's put a dose of reality in here. This isn't a breeding record for race horses or pedigreed dogs. That kind of record just isn't going to exist. No one is dumb enough to keep those kinds of records (unless Steve's conspiracy theory is correct and Mossad has not only the written records but photographic evidence to back that up, in which case the record keepers are exceptionally smart). I don't fully buy Steve's theory. Neither do I buy the assertion that nothing at all happened. There was likely sex trafficking going on, and there was likely some underage girls involved. There are way too many women coming forward as potential victims for there to be nothing at all to a trafficking ring here. Sure, some may be looking for notoriety (and perhaps a bit of cash). And some may be victims of some other trafficking ring. But digging up sufficient facts for convictions isn't going to happen in the public eye. It's not going to happen in Congress. It's not going to happen by releasing all of the Epstein files. If a case (or cases) are going to be made, they're going to be made by experienced investigators and not by anyone else. So let's get the information to the right people and then be patient while they uncover actionable facts and not the wild theories of some ignorant folks on some little discussion board in some little backwater site of the internet.

--Peter
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