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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Anti-semitism on the left
Date: 08/05/26 10:50 AM
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Zionism, like all ethnic nationalism, is a mythological claim about an essential identity (in this case, God given) with a natural right to a territory. It, like all ethnic nationalisms, is founded on a violent cultural and ethnic othering of excluded indigenous populations.

Ah, I thought this conversation might draw a response from you, Phillip.

Once can certainly take a position that all ethnic nationalism is bad. But Antizionism is not that. It's the position that Jewish ethnic nationalism is bad. It's not criticizing the existence of Japan, or Pakistan - or and certainly not pushing back on the idea that the Palestinians constitute an independent "people." Antizionists aren't claiming that Palestinian identity is also a mythological claim of an essential identity coming with a natural right to a territory - in fact, many of them are implicitly (or often explicitly) supporting the idea of Palestinian identity and right to statehood. They're not criticizing the past of the Palestinian movement as a separatist ethno-nationalist project, with Palestinian statehood movements resisting the inclusion of the West Bank in Jordan (with political rights for Palestinian citizens) because they wanted their own ethno-nationalist organization.

Again, the problem isn't taking the position that there shouldn't be countries that are organized around a sense of identity. If someone says that they're antinationalist, that's not antisemitic. But being antizionist is being against the Jews having a country organized around a sense of identity. Not being against the idea that anyone should have a country organized around a sense of identity - the Jews. And that's the issue.
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