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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: NeoCons, "Israel!" and Republicans
Date: 03/29/26 10:15 PM
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And along the way these same people who claim to be thoughtful about the issue will ignore facts they don't like and pretend that their logically inconsistent positions just don't exist. Like how we need to present 2 pieces of photo ID and other pieces of identification to shovel snow in New York City but you can just show up to vote, no questions asked.

It's not logically inconsistent.

Shoveling snow is a privilege. Voting is a constitutionally protected right. There are stronger limits on what a government can require, and should require, as a condition for engaging in voting than for something that isn't a constitutionally protected right.

Trivial example: The government can charge you $10 for a permit to shovel snow. The government is absolutely forbidden to charge you $1 for the right to vote.

The fact that government can make you jump through a lot of hoops for something trivial but can't make you jump through a lot of hoops in order to vote is not a logical inconsistency. The importance of the right to vote is why the government can't impose a lot of requirements on it. Comparisons to more trivial things that have more stringent application requirements doesn't prove your point - it proves the democrats' point. Government is allowed to require a bunch of things (like payment of a fee) to be licensed to shovel snow in NYC precisely because it doesn't matter if lots of people are excluded from shoveling snow; they are forbidden from requiring a bunch of things (like payment of a fee) for voting precisely because it matters a lot if even a single person who should be allowed to vote is excluded because of the requirements.

Do you really not get that by now?
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