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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: fcorelli   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: "Uneducated Low Income Men"
Date: 06/29/25 4:52 PM
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Fcorelli let's say things were different and I gave a shit. And I wanted to turn YOU to vote with Republicans. If I say "hey, you liberal looney commie dipshit, listen up and vote for my guy" ---is that gonna get me to first base?

Oh I get it.

Start at the beginning.

Decide *who* your customer is.

Decide how to market to him.

And starters for that....how do you refer to him?


AH, see this is gonna be a problem. Everybody's gotta stand for something. In order to do the above the Dems will have to throw under the bus almost every one of their constituencies. i.e everybody who hates:

-- Men & White people.
-- Sexually/gender normative people.
-- Obsessive compulsive self-absorbed tribalists, who need to "celebrate" every fucking mundane act as an ethic/gender/racial "achievement" as long as it wasn't a White guy who did it.
-- People who think you should be able to get an abortion as you're going into labor if you choose

Now, if you pick up those Ralph Kramdens and Ed Nortons you will lose a large chunk of the aforementioned. If you try to play to that "Base" almost by definition it means you tell Ralph and Ed "We're with them" which means "Not YOU

There I said it. Make of it what you must. Frankly, I don't believe the Dem's have it in them to STFU on these topics. It's like Tourette's with them.

I think the "evil socialism" part of the Democrats is easier to sell. e.g consumer protection, social safety nets (can take various forms open to discussion and compromise), the ethos that Government is there to allow you to have influence over the things that affect you, and protect you from forces you cannot influence whose interests are not your interests. Government is the tool we use to do things together that we cannot do individually etc etc.

I don't know how you pay Peter without robbing Paul trying to sell all this.



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