" Neither. They can both cause a lot of pain to each other, but neither one can actually be "beaten" - at the end of the day, Trump will still be President and Musk will still be one of the world's richest men (and probably the richest)."

good morning, keep in mind Musk uses margin, we don't know the terms or how aggressively. Musk hates Gates and Hoffman they HATE Musk, Gates has been short tesla for years. I'm surprised Gates and Hoffman haven't sued Musk for the things Musk has said about Gates , Hoffman, and the Epstein affair.

If 40 percent of trump haters will not buy a tesla and 40 percent of trump lovers will not buy a tesla Musk keeps shrinking his potential American market. IF, tsla breaks 250 or even lower, could Musk blow up financially? For decades I argued that insiders should be required to DISCLOSE their borrowing moves when using restricted stock or " control shares" as collateral. I guess big money makes the rules and regs. TSLA is up today, I have no idea why? How many, Brooklyn stickball , do overs, will Musk get from the street? Stay tuned albaby.