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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: Steve203 ⎊❂🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: *Boom*...... Victory set to compound
Date: 06/01/26 9:24 AM
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"UK now spends more on welfare than it earns in income tax — is America heading the same way?"

Does that "report" note that income tax provides a significantly smaller proportion of UK government revenue, than in the US?

From the net sifter:

Income tax is the UK government's largest single source of revenue, funding approximately 27% to 28% of the total public sector budget.For context on how the broader budget is funded, the top three contributors account for nearly 60% of all government receipts: Income Tax: ~28%, National Insurance Contributions (NICs): ~18%, Value Added Tax (VAT): ~17%

USians pay neither a VAT, nor national medical insurance.

Individual income taxes account for about half (approximately 49% to 53%) of the total revenue collected by the U.S. federal government. The remaining federal revenue primarily comes from: Payroll taxes: Around 35% (funds Social Security and Medicare). Corporate income taxes: Around 9% to 11%. Other taxes and fees: Roughly 5% (includes tariffs, excise taxes, and estate taxes)

Look back in the 50s, and see the government received about 27% of revenue from the corporate income tax, vs 48% from the individual income tax. But then the US went "supply side", and "unburdened" corporations, and the rich, at the expense of the Proles.

USian social spending, as a percent of government expenditure.

Social services and income security programs—including Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and various safety-net initiatives—account for the majority of US federal spending, typically comprising over 60% of total government expenditure when broadly defined.Specific proportions of total federal spending vary by program: Social Security: 22%, Health and Medicare: 27% (14% for general health programs, 13% for Medicare), Income Security (e.g., SNAP, unemployment): 10%, Veterans Benefits and Services: 6%, Education, Training, Employment, and Social Services: 2%–5%

I recommend a small book by Darrell Huff "How To Lie With Statistics".

Steve

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