No. of Recommendations: 23
"Let's remind the board for the record which side of the aisle has persisted with calling the other side "terrorists" "Nazis" "fascists" etc. etc. for years." - Dope
You mean when Trump sat and had dinner with an actual Nazi supporter and you defended it? Or when actual Nazis marched in Charlottesville and Trump defended them and you defended Trump? Or when a terrorist like the Bundys threatened law enforcement officials and destroy land you defend them? Or when Trump constantly makes fascist statements (jailing political enemies and stuff like that), and you defend him?
Here is a clue:
If you don't like be lumped in with the terrorists, nazis, and fascists, STOP defending and advocating for them.
It is pretty simple.
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"Atrocity is always a funny thing to fascists. They make jokes about it. And when the atrocities are finally stopped, they swear they knew nothing about it." - Peter
"aaaaaand you did it again.
Ridiculous stuff doesn't merit my taking the premise seriously...so I'm not going to." - Dope
Multiple police officers were killed because of what happened on January 6th. Dozens more were injured. Many severe enough that they could never work gain. All of that happened because Trump took the fascist action of trying to overturn a free and fair election in order to remain in power. Not only do you regularly defend those who committed those atrocities, you now think anyone pointing this stuff out is being ridiculous. You aren't going to address the point because you can't. You want everyone to forget about the atrocities you regularly defended.
Most decent would oppose the killing of police officers in order to overturn an election. You think worrying about it is ridiculous. That says a lot about you. It is also a perfect example of you matching Peter's description. You supported the fascist action of trying to overturn a free and fair election, then you later paper over your support like it wasn't you. You showed more support for Ashley Babbit, a person who was part of a violent mob, then you have ever shown for any of the poor law enforcement officers who risked their life doing their job.
Furthermore, Peter was spot on with his description and to demonstrate, I can give many examples of atrocities you supported in real time only to later minimize your support:
1. The Iraqi invasion. You were one of the most diehard supporters of the invasion of Iraq and regularly used to portray anyone who disagreed with you as being un-American. Now after 2.5 decades, where it turned out a monstrous, expensive disaster that cost tons of U.S. treasure and U.S. soldiers lives and accomplished very little except to push Iraq closer to Iran, you paper over your support and pretend like it never happened.
2. Abu Ghraib. Where U.S. soldiers tortured Iraqi prisoners. You defended the actions of the torturers and attacked anyone who pointed out that it was wrong.
3. Guantanamo Bay. You supported setting up an extra-judicial prison outside the system where human beings could be tortured. Again, you regularly attacked anyone who disagreed and thought that laws should be followed. You accused them of supporting terrorists. Then when pretty much everyone (including Republicans) recognized that Guantanamo Bay was a bad idea and a big problem. Your support just fades away and you pretend it wasn't you. Even more hypocritical, you pretend that you now support law and order.
4. The torture memos. When Albert Gonzolez had the DOJ under Bush tried to justify the torture of prisoners, you were there to support it, despite the fact that it went against treaties the U.S. had signed and law the U.S. had passed. Once again, you attacked anyone who called it wrong.
5. Over the years there have dozens of episodes (literally too many to account for) where police officers aggressively used deadly force against people of color who were doing nothing that deserved the use of deadly force against them. Each and every time you have absolutely resisted the idea that the cop went too far and have fully supported the use of deadly force against people of color who never deserved it. You have never said otherwise despite many opportunities to do so.
6. Abortion. You were one of the loudest supporters of outlawing abortion. You supported politicians who wanted it outlawed, and you fully supported judges who did outlaw it. You used to call people who thought differently than you baby-killers or accused them of wanting to kill babies. Then you get your wish and 11 years old girls who were raped by their uncles and have to carry the baby to term start appearing in the news or mothers in Florida or Texas who die because they suffered complications during pregnancy and were turned away from hospitals because the hospital was forbade by laws (you supported) from doing the one thing that could protect the life of the mother. You see the results of the atrocity you fully supported and now you pretend that you never really wanted were against abortions and insist that most Republicans weren't against abortions.
7. January 6th (including submitting fake electors). You were fully supportive of every step Donald Trump took of overturn a free and fair election, including inciting a mob to beat up police officers and threaten politicians with death. That is textbook fascism and it had your full support. Now you pretend it wasn't that big of a deal and you were not a full supporter.
8. Under George Bush, the Israelis government regularly pushed peaceful Palestinian landowners off of the land they owned by force and then had Jewish settlers have the land to build homes on. That is an atrocity no matter how you slice it. It may not quite be genocide, but it isn't too far away. You always supported those atrocities and accused anyone (even Jewish people) who were against those actions of being antisemitic.
We all understand that you hate being lumped in with Nazis, terrorists, fascists, and such. However maybe you take a look in the mirror at your own actions. If you don't want to be lumped in, stop supporting people who engage in those behaviors and speak up against the people who engage in those behaviors. As I have clearly shown, you have not only supported, but defended Nazis, terrorists, fascists, racists, torturers, rapists, frauds, people stealing from charities, politicians benefitting from their position in government, politicians risking the lives of Americans because they knowingly and regularly mishandled classified information.
If you really think Peter description of you was ridiculous. Ask yourself who you have made hundreds of posts defending people who were part of a violent mob threatening politicians with death, yet you have never made even a single post condemning those people who violently attacked law enforcement and threatened politicians with violence. Why is that?
