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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: What would be more chaos?
Date: 10/30/24 7:44 PM
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No, but they believe some other nefarious thing took place. A distinction without a difference.

It's not a distinction without a difference. If the nefarious thing wasn't part of the counting of the ballots, then the counting of the ballots was fair.

No, they illegally direct campaign funds to foreign agents and use the information to try and overthrow a sitting President.

Took 50 posts to spring this trap, and here we are.


It's not a trap, though. It disproves your point.

If what you're complaining about makes the election invalid...then what? It's already happened. If impropriety before the election makes the election "rigged," then there can't be a fair election. So what - Trump has to win, no matter who the voters actually vote for? We cancel the election?

That can't be the right outcome. Even if stuff happens before the election that shouldn't have happened, if the ballots that are cast are fairly counted, then that person is the one who has won the election. There can be other sanctions for the "other nefarious thing" - but the winner of the election is the one who received the most ballots of the ballots cast.

That's why your "trap" isn't a trap at all. If the right wing is going to claim that the a Trump loss doesn't count because of the FISA/foreign agents/campaign funds things that happened years earlier, then they're going to reject the election outcome no matter what happens. It's not going to be contingent on whether the conduct of the election itself is fair and honest - we know now they're going to riot if Trump loses. Because the thing that will make them riot if he loses has already happened.
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