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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 2:15 PM
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Anyone else miss this?

This year you couldn't turn on your television or scroll Twitter without seeing video of "brazen shoplifters, including images of masked groups smashing windows and grabbing high-end purses and cellphones."

Turns out the claims that nearly half of the retail industry’s $94.5 billion in missing merchandise was the result of organized theft was a lie. The National Retail Federation quietly edited that claim earlier this month from a widely cited report issued back in April after the trade publication Retail Dive revealed that faulty data had been used to arrive at the inaccurate figure.

The claims have been fueled by widely shared videos of a few instances of brazen shoplifters, including images of masked groups smashing windows and grabbing high-end purses and cellphones. But the data show this impression of rampant criminality was a mirage.

In fact, retail theft has been lower this year in most of the country than it was a few years ago, according to police data. Some exceptions, including New York City, exist. But in most major cities, shoplifting incidents have fallen 7 percent since 2019.


Umm, remind me: who was president in 2019?

Anyway, Walgreens, which figured prominently in a video seen millions of times that showed a man, garbage bag in hand, openly stealing products from a Walgreens as others watched, said it would close five stores in San Francisco, citing repeated instances of organized shoplifting.

After the San Francisco Chronicle showed that Police Department data on shoplifting did not support Walgreen’s explanation for the store closings, Walgreens admitted it overstated its claims: "Maybe we cried too much last year."

In the end it turned out that retailers used the false data to lobby Congress to pass bills that would regulate online retailers, which they claim is where much of the stolen product ends up. And it worked, as governors from California to Florida cracked down on retail theft and passed bills aimed at retail theft.

Not to be overshadowed, Orange Jesus called for the police to shoot shoplifters as they are leaving a store.

Bottom line: all the hue and cry was based on incorrect data and shoplifting has gone down, not up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organi...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 2:23 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!

I see left wing trolls the country over trying to front this particular bit of bullspit. I'm not surprised at all that NPC's here would fall for it.

Having witnessed shoplifting myself, been by dozens of homeless camps and seen the street markets of goods being fenced here in Seattle, allow me to express the sentiments of many a blue city resident with the following: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!

Nice try. Stop the gaslighting.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 2:27 PM
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common, you have to stop reading the NYTs bud. Are you saying all these public companies committed securities fraud, with fake disclosure's ? Come on man, https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/31/what-are-retail-sh....
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 3:25 PM
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Sorry commonone quoting from the left wing bias rag, the New York Times is not a reliable
source of information. Don’t peddle left wing nonsense here. TIA

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“New York Times Opinion Rated Left in Sept. 2018 Editorial Review
In Sept. 2018, the AllSides team conducted an extensive Editorial Review of the New York Times Editorial Board. We found the New York Times Editorial Board to be consistently Left. The team could not find even one example of an editorial piece with a Center or Right perspective. Every headline was Left in position, headline, and choice of topic.”

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-york-time...
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 3:37 PM
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hclasvegas: common, you have to stop reading the NYTs bud. Are you saying all these public companies committed securities fraud, with fake disclosure's [sic]?

The answer is right in your link:

However, those figures are largely estimates because of how difficult it is for retailers to figure out whether an item was stolen, lost or missing for other reasons. It’s not like thieves inform retailers about the merchandise they’re taking with them.

So, as the NYT's article (which you didn't seem to have read) said, the total percentage of retail theft attributed to organized theft was based on faulty data. The NYTs did not suggest retailers were intentionally deceptive (committed fraud) but as they acknowledged when they corrected their figures (after lobbying Congress with incorrect data), they were mistaken.

LurkerMom: In Sept. 2018, the AllSides team conducted an extensive Editorial Review of the New York Times Editorial Board.

As usual, you're wrong. The NYT's article came from the news side of the paper, not the editorial side.

But thanks for playing.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 3:41 PM
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The NYTs did not suggest retailers were intentionally deceptive (co

So *you* were the one lying with your thread title, then.

Again: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH!

Go gaslight people who don't have to live under the stupidity of leftist rule.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 4:09 PM
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As usual, you're wrong. The NYT's article came from the news side of the paper, not the editorial side.

Yes, she is dead wrong. For news, the NYT is one of the most reliable sources. But hidden in your comment is a bigger issue: people conflate the editorial with the news. Fox is really good at blending them into a mish-mash so you can hardly tell where fact ends and opinion begins. Both sides' partisan publications do this. I think it is really messing people up, and contributing the the gross misinformation that large swaths of the public have.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 4:50 PM
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As usual you’re wrong. The NYT’s article from the news side of the paper, not the editorial side.

But thanks for playing.


Keep on playing the game on the wrong side, you lose every time.

“While the NYT has featured a left-leaning editorial page for more than a century, its news coverage had been overseen by a succession of executive editors who were widely considered to make good-faith efforts to avoid partisan bias in the paper’s news coverage. 3 4 In recent decades, that reputation has been eroded by the intrusion of increasing amounts of left-leaning bias and advocacy into news coverage under a succession of more activist editors and publishers. “

https://www.influencewatch.org/for-profit/new-york...
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/18/2023 4:53 PM
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But we must fan the flames of fear in order to control the people.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Retail Theft Claims Were A Lie
Date: 12/19/2023 3:26 AM
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Anyone else miss this?

No, I read it and smiled. I just was not into the idea of tangling with the usual suspects over it. :)
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