Nothing is pleasant. You can weave that in your partisan way, can't stop you.

See my post upthread. I have spoken with them, perhaps a dozen. Some, at least, of these people have camaraderie. They have meals. The have a library full of books, and sometimes (group) TV. They have surety. Yes, they also have confinement, and sometimes hostility and occasional violence.

Clearly prison is an experience I’d rather not endure, but then I don’t do things which would be likely to make it so. That does not imply that it’s Dante’s Seventh Circle, either.

Before you go making these kinds of claims, perhaps you should talk with the people left behind in a murderer’s wake. I have, twice. Once in college, a quasi-roommate who spoke at length about it, indeed he was nearly tortured by it. Another time to a friend of my wife’s, in a far more abbreviated way. Their lives are forever changed, and not in a good way. No holiday goes by without regret. No wedding is attended. No phone calls. Nothing, ever. Shouldn’t that count, too?

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