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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: albaby1 ✶❂🐝 GOLD
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Subject: Re: Democrat Surrender Monkeys
Date: 11/12/25 5:40 PM
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You were touting a deadline of November 21st yourself before you embraced the surrender as good politics. Would the democrats have been mortally wounded if they let the republicans trip over themselves for another couple of weeks? Given the increasing petulant venom spewing from Trump I don’t think they would have been.

I think they would have been. Again, the public wasn't blaming the GOP for the shutdown the way the Democrats wanted them to. So the Democrats would indeed have been damaged also if they let this go on for another few weeks. Again, to say nothing of the many people who would actually have been very badly hurt by the shutdown as well. Not enough of the blame was landing on the GOP for this to have been a smart play to continue.

You keep pointing to the polls while ignoring or downplaying the only poll that mattered. Voters voted for a fighting party. The evidence is plan as day. Prioritizing the message of notoriously bad polling data in the face of concrete evidence to the contrary is puzzling to me.

It's not bad polling - it's every poll that was taken. None of the polls showed the electorate blaming the GOP for the shutdown by enough to provide pressure on the GOP to change their position. There was never going to be an endgame where the Democrats got significantly more in the CR than they did.
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