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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: 8 Words Pete Wishes He Hadn’t Said
Date: 12/03/25 2:43 PM
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“We don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement.”
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Date: 12/03/25 2:54 PM
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“We don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement.”

Exactly! Pete Hegseth remembers CIC Obama and his ROE.

Over 2,500 U.S. troops were killed during Obama's eight years in office mainly due to his Rules of Engagement.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: 8 Words Pete Wishes He Hadn’t Said
Date: 12/03/25 3:19 PM
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Over 2,500 U.S. troops were killed during Obama's eight years in office mainly due to his Rules of Engagement.

Horseshit
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Date: 12/03/25 3:34 PM
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Horseshit

Yep, H/S oozing from Padre StreetApple’s mouth down chin..ACK!
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 8 Words Pete Wishes He Hadn’t Said
Date: 12/03/25 3:51 PM
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Padre S/A sez “Horseshit”

“Obama mismanagement of Afghan war leads to needless deaths: commentary”

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“With the deaths of three additional U.S. troops on July 29, this month is officially the bloodiest of the nine-year conflict in Afghanistan. The death toll for July is up to 63 and it captures the record as the deadliest month for Americans so far.

We all need to understand that the increase in deaths is directly the result of Obama's personal mismanagement of the war. The blood of our servicemen is on his hands.

Why? Upon taking management of defense policy, the Obama administration intervened to change the rules of engagement. Ralph Peters explained it this way in the New York Post: "Unless our troops in combat are absolutely certain that no civilians are present, they're denied artillery or air support. If any civilians appear where we meet the Taliban, our troops are to 'break contact' -- to retreat."

Peters concludes, "When our own moral fecklessness murders those in uniform, it's unforgivable. In Afghanistan, our leaders are complicit in the death of each soldier, Marine or Navy corpsman who falls because politically correct rules of engagement shield our enemies."

Obama dithered in adopting a new policy in Afghanistan deep into 2009. This led to criticism from even a left-wing dove like Sen. John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts. Of Obama's indecision, Kerry said in a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, “At the very moment when our troops and our allies’ troops are sacrificing more and more, our path and our progress seem to be growing less and less clear.”

Next came the wrongheaded announcement of our deadline for withdrawal. Obama basically told our enemies the date of our leaving; now they are emboldened by foreknowledge of our defeat.

And who can forget the Stanley McChrystal firing and all the interruption to the chain of command and subsequent uncertainty over policy?”

https://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/2010/07/obama_mis...



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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Date: 12/03/25 3:59 PM
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LM wrote:

Over 2,500 U.S. troops were killed during Obama's eight years in office mainly due to his Rules of Engagement.

And that statement- that the 2500 troops killed in Afghanistan was mainly due to changes in the ROEs...... is horseshit.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Date: 12/03/25 4:21 PM
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And that statement- that the 2500 troops killed in Afghanistan was mainly due to changes in the ROEs...... is horseshit.

Remember the “Dude” at the PA? We went around with the same argument.
He knew I was right and even tried to pass the blame onto Stanley McChrystal for instigating the ROE. The Dude’s hero was Obama. IMO, the Dude suffered from PTSD and I told him so. He emailed me and threatened me with bodily harm. I reported him to TMF.
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Date: 12/03/25 4:23 PM
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Yazz, Reverend Baloney Road Apples is firmly arrested in the "anal" stage of development, I'd say maybe the maturity of a two year old child.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: 8 Words Pete Wishes He Hadn’t Said
Date: 12/03/25 5:14 PM
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He knew I was right and even tried to pass the blame onto Stanley McChrystal

The "Dude" and I continued corresponding for some time after he left Motley Fool.

Soon after that, he began and completed a PhD program in National Security Studies at Yale University. While studying, he also taught classes to undergraduate students. One of the people he invited to come to the campus and speak to his students, someone that he had worked closely with while in Iraq and Afghanistan..... was Stanley McChrystal.

I don't recall anything about him blaming McCrystal. Nor do I recall Obama being his "hero".

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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Date: 12/03/25 5:25 PM
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I don't recall anything about him blaming McCrystal. Nor do I recall Obama being his "hero".

Of course you don’t, but I do. He emailed me a couple of times. He was a nasty SOB.
It’s no wonder he was barred and kicked off the Motley Fool, not once but twice.
First time MF gave him a second chance and he blew that too.

I know the ins and outs of the whole affair, you might recall my son was a staff member
at the Fool.

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