but talking about how to really win

Some years ago, I drove over to the local GOP offices in Livonia, to hear John Kasich speak. Liked quite a bit of what he had to say, but, of course, he had no chance. There may have been 100 people there.

I also drove over to Lawrence Tech to hear Mitt Romney speak. He spoke in a central space of a building, not in a theater. Every few minutes, he would genuflect to Bush 43, for "keeping us safe", while I muttered "Bush is a fascist". There may have been a few more people there, than at the Kasich talk. I watched the coverage on the local news that night. They had the camera located, so it looked like the crowd was a lot bigger than it was.

I tried to go to a Bernie rally. Bernie had a sports arena at Easter Michigan University, in Ypsilanti. Incredible mob scene. Crowds everywhere. Traffic jams everywhere. I finally gave up finding a place to park, and went home.

Bernie Sanders speaks to thousands at Eastern Michigan University

YouTube: Bernie Sanders speaks to thousands at Eastern Michigan University (WXYZ-TV Detroit | Channel 7)

Of course, Bernie had no chance, because Hillary controlled the party machine, and the "super delegates", so, what "We The People" said, didn't matter. Polling also showed there was only one Dem, that Trump could beat: Hillary.

Steve...HBTT