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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 12:06 PM
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House Democrats represent 40 million more Americans than represented by House Republicans.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 12:07 PM
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Actually, that would be Senate Democrats……

Sorry bout that
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 12:32 PM
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Actually, that would be Senate Democrats……

The Senate doesn't have districts....
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 12:55 PM
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The Senate doesn't have districts....

Yes- sorta, kinda, maybe (actually “absolutely”) renders my narrow point- untenable.

Still—— 40 million more people are represented by the minority party in the Senate.

I understand the purpose of the founders in setting up a legislative body that would not be so swayed by popular sentiment- part of that whole “republic” thing, but still…..

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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 1:15 PM
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I understand the purpose of the founders in setting up a legislative body that would not be so swayed by popular sentiment- part of that whole “republic” thing, but still…..

That wasn't really it, actually.

When the country was founded, States were much more like countries. Not just in the Articles - even under the Constitution, States were (and are) still very much sovereign entities, with vast swathes of governmental power reserved solely and exclusively to the States. Almost all regulation was made by State legislatures, not the federal government.

Which is why the Senate looks the way it does. It's like in the EU - while the EU Commission has been delegated a sizable amount of power, the countries that make up the EU are still very much countries. People are very much citizens of the country they live in and the EU, and the EU isn't set up so that citizens from different countries are just amalgamated in a single popular vote. Countries have a voice in the EU that is based on their status as countries, not just based on their population.

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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 3:54 PM
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Indeed

Back when I gave a shit - I actually used to warn about this and Righties like the great Springtex would take umbrage.

Club 401K as usual was focused on hurting themselves....and while they did that, Conservatives organized, organized, organized----and yes, Gerrymandered the shit out of the country, and even within states for local races.

BUT there's more to this gerrymandering thing than a typical partisan tribal noob Sheeple realizes.

REPUBLICANS AND DEMCORATS - a vast majority of them are in "safe seats" meaning You Tribals have self segregate yourself (like I warned you would lol) and now, a MAJORITY of your districts are represented by incumbents who must cater to the most EXTREME parts of ideology because all they only fear is a Primary Challenge.

Isn't it great? That stupid common culture, common history, common civics knowledge that some idiot on TMF used to say was vital----was tossed aside and ridiculed?

Now (luckily I'm not), but if someone *truly* gave a shit about "Democracy!' --- they'd not only be worried about lopsided rule, they'd be MORE worried about the 'safe seat' chronic condition.

Another way your "Democracy" ends up in wrong hands.

I won again.

Boom.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 3:57 PM
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Back when I gave a shit

….you were a decent human being who I liked, in spite of our differences.
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Subject: Re: Gerrymandering’s Real World Consequences
Date: 05/09/2025 11:54 PM
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I understand the purpose of the founders in setting up a legislative body that would not be so swayed by popular sentiment- part of that whole “republic” thing, but still…..


The founders thought it was a good start, and the result of compromises and Madison promised the first Congress would address certain issues to gat it passes, which became the Bill of Rights. Incidently:

"The term gerrymandering is a portmanteau of a salamander and Elbridge Gerry, Vice President of the United States at the time of his death, who, as governor of Massachusetts in 1812, signed a bill that created a partisan district in the Boston area that was compared to the shape of a mythological salamander." Gerry was pronounced with a hard G.
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