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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/29/2024 7:57 PM
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Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/29/2024 9:09 PM
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All the folks I grew up with are dying. Inevitable as I approach that myself. Only two Beatles remain. Earth, Wind, and Fire has lost at least one voice. There's only one BeeGee left. A few days ago, Professor MacGonagal died (i.e. Maggie Smith, age 89).

It won't be too long before everyone will be a "young whippersnapper", like Taylor Swift, Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Watson, etc. :-(
(not that I have anything against those performers...Jennifer Lawrence is a remarkable actress, for example)
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Author: wzambon 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 12:21 AM
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Somehow I missed the news yesterday. Only found out an hour ago.

A real loss

Could write the most beautiful lyrics.

Also a Rhodes Scholar who could quote Blake by heart.

A drunk in his younger years. Flew helicopters in the army.
An outlaw renegade who fell in with the likes of Willie, Waylon and Merle.

An artist. A musician. Song writer and actor….


Died peacefully at home, I understand.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UBMSjaLrprQ

Peace,
Bill Z



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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 10:06 AM
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Yes, I had a couple of his albums. somehow I though Gordon Lightfoot wrote Me and Bonbby McGee till recently. Should've known, the lyrics are more Kris' style. I liked his Sunday, great song. On the Sunday morning sidewalk, wishin lord that I was stoned...
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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 10:39 AM
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I loved him as Whistler in the Blade movies. Didn't know a thing about him until then. 🙂
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Author: sano   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 11:56 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/29/obituaries/kris...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/09/...

There are some great stories in both of these, particularly for those like me who enjoyed the evolution of country music over the last 65+ years. I lived in Tarzana for a couple miserable year, but it was 2 blocks up from the Ernie Ball guitar shop. Hanging out there was my escape. Lotta good country musicians would drop by on the way to gigs at Corriganville and play the latest pedal steel, strats and telecasters.

Me and Bobby McGee is one of the first songs I learned to play on guitar having heard Janice Joplin's version so many times.

So...Willie Nelson is the last man standing.
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 12:12 PM
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sano,

What guitar style do you play?

I’m an acoustic steel string fingerpicking player, although I started out on classical guitar.
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Author: wzambon 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 1:31 PM
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So...Willie Nelson is the last man standing.

Looks like…

and he might not be standing for much longer, but while he does….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKvUYbGu7A

Highwaymen riding into the wind

Bill Z
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Author: sano   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 2:25 PM
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Same. Fingerstyle and flat pick.

When I mentioned seeing a guy playing electric and pedal steel at Ernie Ball's my Mom bought me a classical guitar; wanted me to be Segovia. I took lessons at EBs for a while, but it was players like the Ventures Don Wilson and Bob Bogle and Dick Dale and Paul Johnson (Mr.Moto) and Bob Spickard (Pipeline)that had my attention.

Eventually I got a dreadnoughts and a big Silvertone electric hollowbody, then a Tele and a Les... now it's time to start unloading them as my hands get less happy. I still have that classical guitar... rotted tuner keys, original cardboard case....and my grandfather-in-laws 1933 Martin C-1 archtop that his wife bought from sears roebuck for $37.00 that he played at pentacostal goin' to church meetings.

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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 2:32 PM
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I’m an acoustic steel string fingerpicking player, although I started out on classical guitar.


Me too. But I learned to play Simon and Garfunkel tunes too.
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Author: sano   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 2:34 PM
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Pancho and Lefty has been in my faves to play since I heard Emmylou sing it I don't know how long ago... back in the day with Rodney Crowell...

Seems like everybody who plays it tweaks the words a bit, and what the federales did.

Townes sang it a few different ways too.

My preferred: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zprRZ2wFQD4
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Author: sano   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 2:40 PM
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Paul Simon is a superb fingerstylist, but you probably know that.

Top notch showman too.

Saw him 5 or 9 years ago with his big band and Stings whole band all set up opposite each other on a huge arena stage alternating sets, playing some together... talent overload.

Kinda like seeing Clapton and Winwood on stage together... so much stratocaster talent together and apart.
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 3:03 PM
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Yah, I noticed that Paul says he gets acrylic on sis fingernails now, and doesn't use the old style fingerpicks. I a;ways wondered how he got so good so young. A friend had old Tom and Jerry stuff that was mediocre, so I guess that's how you start. :)
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 3:57 PM
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my grandfather-in-laws 1933 Martin C-1 archtop

I bought a Martin D35 when I was 18. Still have it, but my fingers aren't as good. Arthritis and carpal tunnel have me limited.
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Author: wzambon 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 4:02 PM
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Seems that the spirits VanZandt followed were increasingly 90 proof.

A sad and familiar story of extreme talent dissolving in the embrace of John Barleycorn.
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Author: sano   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 4:24 PM
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I bought a Martin D35 when I was 18. Still have it, but my fingers aren't as good. Arthritis and carpal tunnel have me limited.

Same. I also enjoyed a trigger thumb.

Got my D28 in 1976 but more comfortable with a 00-18 now or the Tele.

Smaller guitars, longer surfboards, e-bike instead of acoustic...



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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 8:26 PM
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As long as we're pointing out recent passings, JD Souther passed away on the 17th. Probably best known for co-writing several of the Eagles hits (Desperado, James Dean, You Never Cry Like a Lover, Best of My Love, New Kid in Town and Victim of Love). He also co-wrote Don Henley's The Heart of the Matter and wrote Linda Ronstadt's Faithless Love, White Rhythm and Blues, and Simple Man, Simple Dream, Prisoner in Disguise, and also duetted with her on the song Hearts Against the Wind from the film Urban Cowboy. Oh, and there was You’re Only Lonely with James Taylor.

Well, in short, the guy wrote some really fine songs, was an excellent guitarist, and had one of the most perfect voices you've ever heard.

He turned down the Eagles when they asked him to join the band, saying later in an interview when asked why: “I don’t really want to be stopped when I’m in the grocery store and have somebody pay a bunch of attention to me.”

Coincidentally, Souther, like Kristofferson, was one of the rare breed of men who actually looked better with a beard than without one.

The album Black Rose is considered his best work (full album here): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQZ5tpVD8UQ&list=P...

Here's an acoustic version of Faithless Love with Metraca Berg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtr0jlTK0pA
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 8:52 PM
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Best of My Love, New Kid in Town

Yes, I realized when he passed that he wrote these two and that told me just how good he was. He was good.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 9:42 PM
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What guitar style do you play?

I know you weren't asking me, but looks like there are several of us guitar players here.

I started on acoustic in the early 60's, then went electric in the mid-60's playing rock music. Then in the 70's moved on to trying to play jazz, a humbling experience.

Now play bluegrass, Americana, country, folk and some jazz in a trio.

It's all been fun.

This last week I saw the Transatlantic Guitar Trio, not once, but twice at two very small venues. Joscho Stephan, Richard Smith and Rory Hoffman, all amazing musicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTcUTww0gMU
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 10:10 PM
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Now play bluegrass, Americana, country, folk and some jazz in a trio.

Wow, you're a better player than I ever was. :) My hat is off to ya.
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 11:16 PM
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I found this:

"I found a considerable lack of work after doing
concerts for Palestinian children.. if that's the
way it has to be, that's the way it has to be. If you
support human rights, you gotta support them
everywhere."
- Kris Kristofferson

Good man
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 09/30/2024 11:23 PM
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Love hearing from you guitar players!

I heard Mason Williams playing Classical Gas in the late sixties. I really wanted to learn that song. Asked my dad if he’d send me for guitar lessons. To my great surprise, he said yes. Bought me a classical guitar and sent me to classical guitar lessons. Not what I had in mind. LOL.

Tried learning Classical Gas on and off for 50+ years with little success. When I retired, I spent 1 hour every day learning it note by note. Took over 6 months, but I can play an OK version of it now (only 6 or 7 screw ups each time I play it). 😬

I play everything from Bach to Beatles, all fingerpicking style.

Joscho Stephan and Richard Smith are incredible! Not familiar with Rory but I’ll look him up.
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Author: Lapsody   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 10/01/2024 1:53 AM
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Tried learning Classical Gas on and off for 50+ years with little success. When I retired, I spent 1 hour every day learning it note by note. Took over 6 months, but I can play an OK version of it now (only 6 or 7 screw ups each time I play it).

If you are playing Classical Gas, you are doing well. I'll have to try. :)
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 10/01/2024 10:12 AM
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Wow, you're a better player than I ever was. :) My hat is off to ya.

I didn't say I play all those genres well. : ) I play with other people who do.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 10/01/2024 10:21 AM
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If you are playing Classical Gas, you are doing well. I'll have to try. :)

And then there is Tommy Emmanuel playing classical gas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S33tWZqXhnk
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Kris Krisofferson RIP
Date: 10/01/2024 10:48 AM
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Not familiar with Rory but I’ll look him up.

Here's a recording I made on my phone of Rory Hoffman doing Night Life. He was playing with Joscho Stehpan and Richard Smith at this little house concert in the Sierra Nevada foothills. He played this one solo. I videoed quite a few closeups of his hands as he played because he has a very interesting style of playing, to say the least.

If you listen with ear buds or headphones, the sound quality is pretty good.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11lkXyEYjeFN-DF8lB...
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