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The day you’ve wanted is here: Venezuelan gangs are moving into apartment buildings in a Colorado suburb.

The best part is what Colorado’s governor had to say:

https://nypost.com/2024/08/29/us-news/colorado-gov...

You’re just making these gangs up, proles.

Crime and gaslighting. That’s today’s democrat party.

Crime and gaslighting. That’s today’s democrat party.

Back to the "accusations as confessions" playbook, I see.

Ah, I see. You believe any video you see as gospel unless it was taken on January 6th.

I’ll hold my comments until I see this reported on a real news site.

NY Post? LOL.

OMG thank you for the heads up.

I'm on road right now (well no, I'm in a Burger King parking lot .....having a near sexual experience with this Bacon Angus King) I will read this in a bit.

This is a fine start.

Much more to be done

The key is introducing lonely young migrant men - -- with hot beautiful yoga girls in Blue Areas and Whole Foods parking lots.

BUT doing it quietly.

I'm still a bit soft inside.

BUT I think in due time, I feel a passion for this also.

Hey, social circles and healthy foods are important, even for illegals.

Ah, I see. You believe any video you see as gospel unless it was taken on January 6th.

I’ll hold my comments until I see this reported on a real news site.

NY Post? LOL. - AW

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Fascinating that you would disregard actual video of the criminals in action because the video was presented on an unapproved source. LOL, in order to be so dismissive, you focus on the venue where viewed, not the content of the video itself.

Do think some entity hired actors and produced the video on a sound stage before circulating to fake news outlets like the Post, who dutifully publish it as if it were real? If the same video was shown by the NYT, then all of a sudden, the video is instantly and magically transformed and is then documenting real events.

From the Post Article

"Colorado Gov. Jared Polis dismissed anger over Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua taking over apartment buildings in the Denver suburb of Aurora, calling it “imagination” — despite video footage, police reports and the city’s mayor confirming it’s happening."

Imaginary, don't believe your lying eyes.

This is like the hundreds of hours of video on Fox News showing thousands and thousands of illegals pouring over our border in all sorts of ways and yet all of it was fake according to the Dems; and fake it was, until wise Governor Abbott started sharing.

It’s not a shock the bubble people go right for putting their hands over their eyes. They’re so easily led, these libs.

Fascinating that you would disregard actual video of the criminals in action

What I saw in the video was armed people entering an apartment.

How do we know they're Venezuelan?
How do we know they're a gang? Or specifically the Tren de Aragua gang?
How do we know they're taking over the building and not just fairly peacefully entering a single apartment with the occupant's permission?

Again, this was armed men entering an apartment. They knocked on the door and entered. The video clip doesn't prove anything else.

Please note, I'm not saying this wasn't that specific Venezuelan gang - just that the video doesn't prove it. We need something else for that proof.


This is how critical thinking works. You see what you see, but you don't read into it MORE than you see.

--Peter

t’s not a shock the bubble people go right for putting their hands over their eyes. They’re so easily led, these libs.
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Until they are "dating" some of the gang members and illegals , they won't care.

It's tough medicine.

And if it's too tough, fine - then we best stop complaining about illegal immigration.



It's time Whole Foods and Yoga parking lots become a pick-up spot for meeting chicks.

For some people.

How do we know they're Venezuelan?
How do we know they're a gang? Or specifically the Tren de Aragua gang?
How do we know they're taking over the building and not just fairly peacefully entering a single apartment with the occupant's permission?

Again, this was armed men entering an apartment. They knocked on the door and entered. The video clip doesn't prove anything else. - ptheland

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Agree, the info in the Post article is insufficient for the conclusion drawn.

Now, as to the underlying migrant crime problem....

Too bad you don't watch Fox news where you be exposed to more fake video of the of the criminals taking a hammer to what was a very substantial door and lock, the video went on for 30 sec or so as chunks of door were being ripped out, but the door held firm. In your style of critical thinking must we assume they were the apartments tenants who forgot their key?

Fox showed another video taken inside a mock-up of a tenants apartment where the woman was showing the six or seven locks she had from top to bottom of her door. She explained it was really difficult to unlock and then re-lock all these locks whenever she went for mail or take out the trash. She said she was forced to add all these locks, the only way she could feel safe, when so many apartments were having their doors kicked in. She added it all began when the Venezuelans moved in.

Fox showed a video of an older couple, aged 65 or so, walking down the sidewalk, away from the building, each carrying boxes. The local news reporter asked them why they were moving. They responded it is just too dangerous to stay there, besides the current incident, they said two days ago there was a shootout and their car had bullet holes in it. They said this was a nice place to live until the Venezuelans moved in and that was soon after a migrant shelter was opened up in Denver (a sanctuary city) only a few miles away.

Below is a link to a Fox article that makes up a more comprehensive fairy tale maligning the benevolent Venezuelans. Irony warning, Fox video headline CO Task Force Targeting Venezuelan Gang Activity. The state is going after the same Gang Activity that the mayor of Denver claims is imaginary.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sanctuary-citys-...

Although Denver's suburbs don't share its sanctuary city policies, the influx of migrants into the Mile High City has spilled outward. Now, its neighbors are facing an unprecedented wave of activity from a notorious Venezuelan prison gang.

Officials from Aurora, about nine miles east of Denver, told Fox News Digital the Tren de Aragua gang has gained a strong foothold in their city, commandeering apartment complexes and drumming up violent crime and sex trafficking.

"We currently have entire complexes under gang control — complexes where staff have been beaten up, they've been threatened, their families have been threatened [and] complexes where there are no staff left on the property," Aurora City Council Member Danielle Jurinsky said. "These complexes are being run by this Tren de Aragua gang.

"They start brokering apartments themselves when someone leaves out of fear or whatever. They go in and take pictures of the apartment themselves. Then, I've been told, within hours, a Venezuelan family moves in.

Agree, the info in the Post article is insufficient for the conclusion drawn.

Good.

Too bad you don't watch Fox news

I'm not the one making the argument that there are Venezuelan gangs causing a problem. If there's additional evidence, show it to me, don't just tell me about it.

--Peter

In your style of critical thinking must we assume they were the apartments tenants who forgot their key?

No. It would prove they were likely criminals illegally entering an apartment. Don't know if they were Venezuelan from that. It would be some evidence of a gang - possibly not enough for a jury to convict, but definitely a piece of evidence they are a gang.

the woman was showing the six or seven locks she had from top to bottom of her door.

Demonstration she was scared, for sure. Of what? Why is she afraid? Making someone afraid isn't necessarily a crime.

The local news reporter asked them why they were moving. They responded it is just too dangerous to stay there, besides the current incident, they said two days ago there was a shootout and their car had bullet holes in it.

Again, demonstration of fear. Apparently well-founded. Of what? Back to the same issues as the lady above.

Below is a link to a Fox article that makes up a more comprehensive fairy tale

If it's a fairy tale, its not evidence. If it is NOT a fairy tale, I have 3/4 of a billion reasons not to trust Fox without some corroboration. Doesn't mean they're lying, but they lack credibility. It will take some time to earn that back.

--Peter

Watched 'Nobody' last night. Bob Odenkirk portrays a meek family man whose prior life an a killer for the 3 letter agencies is rekindled by a fight with the росси́йская ма́фия rossíyskaya máfiya.

The russian mafia has deep ties to latin american cartels, global reach with all the popular crimes. Possibly Trump financiers for projects such as his failed Baku hi-rise.

Gangs bad. Venezuelan, RUSSIAN, Italian, Asian, Irish let's see some equal outrage for the other gangs.

Too bad you don't watch Fox news

Without Fox 'new's our country would not be in the perilous situation of possibly once again electing the most unsuitable man imaginable to the nation's highest office.

FOX is democracy poison.

росси́йская ма́фия rossíyskaya máfiya.

I'm impressed you know how to get that out of a keyboard.

Some years ago I experimented.

It resulted in a non violent police incident in Bucks County, PA in their "downtown" lol I wasn't even in town.


I'm onto something -- - I still worried about something getting me in the soup.

Somehow, need to make sure that 401K Liberals come face to face with what they've created.

And they need to experience it.

I love that it happens in Sweden and France - they so deserve it.

But as usual I'm not satisfied. Just have been too cowardly to step it up.

Fascinating that you would disregard actual video of the criminals in action.

Fascinating that you don't realize the immigration problem that has you so frightened is Trumps doing...

Fear mongering insurrectionist Donald Trump killed the bipartisan bill that would have addressed the border problem...
He said, "The Senate is better off not making a deal, even if it means the country will close up for a while."

Life long Republican Mitt Romney summed up the situation nicely...
"The border is a very important issue for Donald Trump, and the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that
he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Joe Biden (Kamala Harris) for it is really appalling."

Really appalling. If you don't like what's happening at the border, it's Trumps fault.

BTW The bill was fully endorsed by the National Border Patrol Council, the Chamber of Commerce, the Wall Street Journal and supported by 66% of Americans.

Do the MAGA Bots ever tire of people taking advantage of their gullibility? Not an actual question, I already know the answer...

"Michael, I find your endless capacity for being surprised by things that are so easily explained, to be a continual source of, well, surprise." ~KITT From Knight Rider

Fascinating that you don't realize the immigration problem that has you so frightened is Trumps doing...

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LOL it's not ONE president's fault but hey if immigration is Trump's fault, so is current low unemployment and stock market levels ok?


Mind you, Liberal Racists refuse to accept that Biden put Kamala in charge of the border.

That's probably why you tossed Biden overboard. He put "her" in charge and you can't have "too many of them" in power.

Why do you refuse to accept that she had responsibility?


Calling HR at Plantation Inc: Talk to the bosses.

Below is a link to a Fox article that makes up a more comprehensive fairy tale maligning the benevolent Venezuelans. Irony warning, Fox video headline CO Task Force Targeting Venezuelan Gang Activity. The state is going after the same Gang Activity that the mayor of Denver claims is imaginary.

I always love these “How do you know it’s…” posts from the left: nothing says ‘I don’t know what I’m talking about on this subject’ any clearer than when they almost brag about not knowing something. They’re Venezuelan gangs. They know that because they know who they arrested, thr ‘Cookie Monster’ among them.

The reality is that our left wing friends just don’t want to know the effects of the policies they spout off about and the politicians they support. Because if they did want to know they’d a) have to admit they are wrong 99% of the time b) would have to admit the other side is right and c) would have to acknowledge they’ve been lied to for decades in some cases.

But all that requires a level of mental and emotional fortitude that’s just not happening.

Fascinating that you don't realize the immigration problem that has you so frightened is Trumps doing...

And it isn't just that. Back when Trump was trying to commandeer local police forces into things they didn't want to do with the immigrant community he helped cause the immigrant community to lower cooperation with the police. This means, less immigrant on immigrant crime being reported, because they are talking about rounding up all illegals and using the local police to help. I've seen stats that cooperation lowered 60% and more in some areas.

We need cooperation if we're going to deal effectively with crime in these areas - Trump didn't help.

The reality is that our left wing friends just don’t want to know the effects of the policies they spout off about and the politicians they support. Because if they did want to know they’d a) have to admit they are wrong 99% of the time b) would have to admit the other side is right and c) would have to acknowledge they’ve been lied to for decades in some cases.

Speaking of “lied to for decades”, how’s this?

“The stock market is at an all time high”

“But that doesn’t affect me”

“So you agree that ‘trickle down’ doesn’t work for you, and that giving the biggest tax breaks to the already wealthy as we have been doing since the 1980s hasn’t paid off for lots of people?”

“[silence]”

The reality is that our left wing friends just don’t want to know the effects of the policies they spout off about and the politicians they support...
they would have to acknowledge they’ve been lied to for decades in some cases.

Lies? You wanna talk about lies? (A nod to coach Jim Mora)

Nobody has been lied to more than my MAGA friends. How did that wall come out? LOL

Fool Dope once shame on you, fool Dope 30,573 times?

Donald Trump lied a total of 30,573 times over his 4 year presidency. Trump is a PROVEN LIAR. He's made a career of lying to people.

79% of Trump's tweets were rated False by politifact check...

"I will pay down the national debt over a period of eight years." ~DJT

"We have $21 trillion in debt. When this [the 2017 tax cut] kicks in, we’ll start paying off that debt like it’s water." ~DJT

"Because of Tariffs we will be able to start paying down large amounts of the $21 trillion in debt that has been accumulated." ~DJT

"Mexico will pay for the wall!" ~DJT

"I hire the best people." ~DJT

"I will repeal and replace Obamacare with something much better, and cheaper...so easy." ~DJT

Hey Mike,

Fascinating that you would disregard actual video of the criminals in action because the video was presented on an unapproved source. LOL, in order to be so dismissive, you focus on the venue where viewed, not the content of the video itself.

I think disregard is not the correct word. I consider my self more of a skeptic. I often try to confirm stories like this, even when I read them from sources I trust.

This story contained some ‘doesn’t pass the sniff test’ for me.

First, I searched the story and only found it on the Post, Fox, and a few other small sites I’ve never heard of. Nothing from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, WaPo, or any other large, mostly reliable news source.

Second, I literally just returned from an out-of-town family religious celebration/visit. Any guesses where that town that was? Well, no need to guess. It was Aurora, CO. One of my sisters has lived there for decades as well as 2 of my nephews and their families. And I had dozens of conversations with folks from Aurora (family, family friends, neighbors) and not a single mention of anything about an invasion of illegal immigrants taking over an apartment building. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

Third, these gangs apparently were knocking on doors. Mighty friendly gang.

So ya, I’m pretty skeptical about this story.

Did some local crime take place? Probably. But certainly not a state-wide story and most definitely not a national story. Fox is known for its ‘fake swarm of locusts illegal aliens’ (aka brown people) stories over the years, especially leading up to an election.

Just for the record, I believe our borders need to be secure. But I also think that it can be done humanely, you know, without permanently separating mothers and babies and putting them in jail. I also think people who have the drive to try to get to this country through immense danger are just the kind of strong people we need as immigrants. And immigrants need a reasonable path to citizenship. It’s in our DNA.

That’s one of the many reasons I support the only candidate who has a record of prosecuting criminals trying to sneak over the border, Kamala Harris.

As an American, you have the right to support a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, an insurrectionist, and a candidate who committed a federal crime on sacred ground (yes, we have videos and pictures).

But having the right clearly doesn’t make it right.

Off to do more landscaping work in my yard. Boy, sure could use an illegal immigrant to help me. 😁

No idea what you’re talking about. I suppose you’re trying to argue for sky-high marginal rates again.

…but there is nothing stopping you or Warren Buffet from writing a check to the Treasury.

The reality is that our left wing friends just don’t want to know the effects of the policies they spout off about and the politicians they support. - Dope

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Yeah, the response seems to blame the problem on Trump and then let it fester. Not exactly a solution for the poor citizens suffering under the predation of Venezuelan gangs.

Yeah, the response seems to blame the problem on Trump and then let it fester. Not exactly a solution for the poor citizens suffering under the predation of Venezuelan gangs.

No. From what I've read it's two councilmen and a mayor saying this, the "Officials". The police do not know who these people are, and have said so.

The councilman said the same thing with an apartment shut down for health and safety violations six months ago. The governor has made available any assistance to take "anything back" if the city wants it. But the police intelligence doesn't agree with the councilman and Mayor.

Yeah, the response seems to blame the problem on Trump and then let it fester. Not exactly a solution for the poor citizens suffering under the predation of Venezuelan gangs.

I’m totally sure that raising the top marginal tax rate will fix the Venezuelan gang problem, though.

Dope1: The day you’ve wanted is here: Venezuelan gangs are moving into apartment buildings in a Colorado suburb.

The best part is what Colorado’s governor had to say...

Um. You guys do realize that Aurora, Colorado has a republican mayor and it's city council has a republican majority, right?

And it's a bit odd that you are all worked up about a few guys at a door but have labeled a mob of ten thousand chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" and urging hundreds to beat, taser, and bear spray police in order to break into the nation's Capitol, a friendly stroll.

You do realize that there’s no wall around blue sanctuary cities, right?

And that the effects of stupid liberal policies never stay in one spot, right?

You probably don’t.

You do realize that there’s no wall around blue sanctuary cities, right?

And that the effects of stupid liberal policies never stay in one spot, right?

No. There *IS NO TAKEOVER OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX*. I've seen your videos. I appreciate the lady locking her door multiple times,and propping a lever under the knob so no one can kick the door in. I saw the bullet hole in one car door. I never saw a door kicked in, a body, someone who was injured or even a description. I do believe that some person(s) fired a gun(s) in the parking lot. I saw the fellow chipping away at the door - one of the oddest ways I've ever seen to break in a door.

Why are these gangs posing for these shots of standing in front of a door? These are very good shots - and the camera is in just the right place, Congrats on the filmer. The guns are there and never fired and I like how they never held the guns like they were ready to fire. Then the police report (not on film) no complex taken over that they know of and they don't know who these people are - not giving the name of a gang.

There's even a narrator in the film(s). But no interview of police called to investigate a crime. The info is limited in the film and the police don't support the claims by the councilmen and the Mayor.

It looks like a made up film composed by, shudder, crisis actors! Segue to Alex Jones!

Fascinating that you would disregard actual (maybe?) video of the criminals in action. ~MAGA-BOT

Fascinating indeed...

Here is actual, real, 100% verified footage from the January 6th MAGA led insurrection...that you completely disregard. Gotta love consistency amirite?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iludfj6Pe7w

9 people lost their lives and over 140 Police Officers suffered injuries.
All because people like Dope & BHM lack the critical thinking skills
necessary to recognize the difference between credible sources of information and Trump's lies.

Another 1,400 folks who, like Dope & BHM, lack the critical thinking skills necessary to recognize the difference between credible sources
of information and Trump's lies have been charged with Jan. 6-related federal crimes.
Over 900 of them have been convicted and sentenced.

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be." ~Thomas Jefferson

You do realize that there’s no wall around blue sanctuary cities, right? And that the effects of stupid liberal policies never stay in one spot, right?

Not to nitpick, but the effects of liberal policies often do stay in one spot...

Let's look at some Data shall we?

Folks in Blue States are better educated...
"Blue states outpace red states by 5.3 percentage points in 4-year college degree attainment."
"All of the top 15 most college-educated states are blue, while only 3 of the bottom 15 are blue."
Example:
"The District of Columbia (blue) has the highest percentage of residents with a 4-year degree at 50.5%.
West Virginia (red) has the lowest percentage of residents with a 4-year degree at 17.9%."

https://www.chadaldeman.com/p/red-state-education-...

And Folks in Blue States live longer...
"A growing mortality gap between Republican and Democratic areas may largely stem from policy choices."
"People in Republican Counties Have Higher Death Rates Than Those in Democratic Counties."
"It joins an already existing, pretty robust literature showing that politics do have life-and-death consequences."
"The U.S. mortality rate has decreased since 2001. But the improvement for those living in Republican counties was half that of those in Democratic counties 11 percent lower versus 22 percent lower."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-...

And Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States...
"The Data found that between 2000 and 2020, Trump-voting states had 12% higher murder rates than did Biden-voting cities."
"New York saw significant drops in homicides between 2021 and 2022, while Florida saw significant increases."
"Mississippi had a firearm mortality rate of 33.9, making it the state with the highest rate. The state also used its electoral votes to vote for then President Trump in the 2020 election."
"Louisiana had a firearm mortality rate of 29.1 and voted for Trump."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/0...

Let's look at some Data shall we?

Folks in Blue States are better educated...
"Blue states outpace red states by 5.3 percentage points in 4-year college degree attainment."
"All of the top 15 most college-educated states are blue, while only 3 of the bottom 15 are blue."
Example:
"The District of Columbia (blue) has the highest percentage of residents with a 4-year degree at 50.5%.
West Virginia (red) has the lowest percentage of residents with a 4-year degree at 17.9%." - Bansky

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Condescending Clap Trap.

Education is not the same as common sense.

Education is not a measure of values.

Many (most?) of these educated elites could not change a tire or operate a chainsaw, yet they look down on a welder or an electrician, or a diesel mechanic because they lack "education".

Consider the HS grad who started a plumbing business right out of HS. Just himself and a truck for the first few years, as he slowly builds his business, adding a helper and later another truck and later more helpers. In addition to be a skilled plumber, he is also skilled at running a business, keeping records, paying taxes, creating jobs, meeting payroll. Any loans he got along the way, to finance a truck for example, he is on the hook for and is not asking for anyone else to pay the loan off for him. Uneducated? Hardly. More accurately described as educated in other things, things many would say are more important to our economy than a degree in social influencing.

Meeting a payroll!! That is something very few of those who govern us have ever had to worry about, too bad, as it would bring a stark reality into focus which would result in better legislation.

I love the education based arguments. They’re silly for a variety of reasons, as you point out. But the biggest one is that…merely having an ‘education’ doesn’t mean you studied something useful.

Witness all these highly educated blue places that defunded their police. How ‘educated’ a decision was that? Or the ones that prioritize the criminal over the victim? That doesn’t seem very ‘educated’,either.

You hit the correct answer - and that’s values.

Meeting a payroll!! That is something very few of those who govern us have ever had to worry about,

Apparently you will be surprised to find that those in government offices have a budget, and must live within that amount unless more is appropriated by the legislature. So the idea that government bureaucrats are just wildly spending with abandon is just another fiction that Conservatives have drummed up to show how truly ignorant they are, and it works!

Witness all these highly educated blue places that defunded their police.

Do you have a list of “all these” places? I ask because I can’t seem to find a single one.

Apparently you will be surprised to find that those in government offices have a budget, and must live within that amount unless more is appropriated by the legislature. - GH

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However, they don't have their personal wealth on the line like the small businessman and they are NOT burdened with myriad regulations that a real business must navigate.

Nor do they have to worry about customer satisfaction, and the need to make sales to keep the ship afloat.

Sorry, but I would rather be governed by that hard working plumber with common sense than by a highly educated Adam Schiff.

And that the effects of stupid liberal policies never stay in one spot, right?

I'll tell you what's stupid: Trump killing the best border bill possible at this time and one that gave the GOP much of what they wanted. And what's stupider? Right wingers refusing to admit that Trump killed the bill.

Right wingers refusing to admit that Trump killed the bill.

This has become a tenet of MAGA it seems.

Witness all these highly educated blue places that defunded their police.

Is this another FOX 'news' 'fact'?

And what's stupider? Right wingers refusing to admit that Trump killed the bill. - ges

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What is even stupider is believing Biden or Harris would do anything to reduce the actual inflow. Sure all the money would be spent quickly to the hire more agents and set up new courts, all new resources dedicated to increasing intake capacity.

I admit he killed the bill.

GOOD!

Liberalism will punish Liberals.

The only good part about the border bill is that corporations will cash in selling you people useless equipment and contracts.

After 9-11 that same thing has happened to you people - the only difference is you have more respect for a certain demographic because you learned they know how to kick a little..

..Chertoff and Airport scanners just for starters :)

Witness all these highly educated blue places that defunded their police.

Is this another FOX 'news' 'fact'?


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Liberals don't want to defund the police. They like the black and brown people being prosecuted and put in prison.

Kamala is good at that.

bighairymike: What is even stupider is believing Biden or Harris would do anything to reduce the actual inflow.

Well, as long as you brought up being stupid.

President Biden signed an executive order with severe border restrictions in June, almost exactly the same restrictions that DonOld Trump tried to enact in 2018, to temporarily shut down asylum requests once the average number of daily encounters tops 2,500 between official ports of entry.

Migrants who don’t meet the requirement of having a "credible fear" when they apply for asylum will be immediately removable, and they will be removed in a matter of days, if not hours. Individuals who cross the southern border unlawfully or without authorization will generally be ineligible for future asylum (with some exceptions, including for unaccompanied children).

The executive order made it easier for immigration officers to remove those without a lawful basis to remain and reduce the burden on Border Patrol agents.

In short, republicans may be stupid but only because they do not know or understand the executive order that has reduced border encounters to below the number of encounters between ports of entry in June 2019, the last comparable year prior to the pandemic.

Since the orders are not permanent and he cannot provide additional funding, it is up to Congress to write legislation and provide the money to hire additional border agents, judges, and equipment to secure the border.

You know, like the bill DonOld killed because he was more eager to use American security as an election year campaign issue than to actually take essential steps toward making America more secure.

So, yeah, stupid indeed.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statement...

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2024/07/16/fact-sheet-pre...

Sure all the money would be spent quickly to the hire more agents and set up new courts, all new resources dedicated to increasing intake capacity.

So, we finally get a glimpse into the real motivation. You’re not just against illegal immigration, as most Democrats are as well. You’re against ALL immigration.

Increasing intake capacity makes legal immigration easier and reduces illegal immigration. If the immigration system works efficiently, that reduces the need for potential immigrants to resort to illegal immigration.

But if your immigration system is broken, as most people believe the US system is, illegal immigration becomes the last resort for those trying to escape their desperate situation in various Central and South American countries.

—Peter

What is even stupider is believing Biden or Harris would do anything to reduce the actual inflow

We read the bill. We posted excerpts. They posted talking points.

That bill was trash, and it died because it sucked.

It’s hilarious how fast they try to run away from all their own policies.

Are these clowns really trying to claim no police defunding took place? And that democrats and socialists (same thing) weren’t all for it?

Just laughable.

These people are the little kid on the playground that keeps trying to change the rules.

росси́йская ма́фия rossíyskaya máfiya.

I'm impressed you know how to get that out of a keyboard.

Wait'll you see my breakdancing routine in the '28 Olympics!

Even stupider is claiming there was no problem at all on the southern border for years.

You just have to shake your head.

What is even stupider is believing Biden or Harris would do anything to reduce the actual inflow.

Nope. I think we are in luck, the Euros also want to tighten up, so getting agreements On the Geneva Convention might be easier, but I don't know. For people crossing the Mexican American border, we could suggest a requirement they apply at the first safe country they come to, and we decide who is safe.

We should have a process and interview that gets it done in six weeks, and the ability to shut down the border if too many people are crossing. Sound familiar?

Wait'll you see my breakdancing routine in the '28 Olympics! - sano

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I would definitely watch that but sadly it has been announced that "breaking" will not be part of the 2028 Olympics.

We should have a process and interview that gets it done in six weeks, and the ability to shut down the border if too many people are crossing. Sound familiar? - Lambo

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Sure as long as we are crafting that compromise, something like that should be discussed. One problem I have with any "counting and close" methodology is the needless complexity, eg "Close when for a certain period or until the average yada yada reaches some thresh hold but only if the total number of closure days is below some sliding scale for the year. You need two math PHD's and an AI Statistician to figure out what this means, let alone how to harness it. One thing it requires is for information to flow instantly from each sector to a central authority, followed by number crunching, then orders for the day coming back in time to be distributed to the morning shifts. And the ones that Biden is flying right over the border should also be counted as part of the daily dynamic. One thousand more flights in = One thousand less walk-ins.

It sounds nuts and unmanageable, because it is...

Sure as long as we are crafting that compromise, something like that should be discussed. One problem I have with any "counting and close" methodology is the needless complexity, eg "Close when for a certain period or until the average yada yada reaches some thresh hold but only if the total number of closure days is below some sliding scale for the year.

I didn't have a problem with it. I just didn't like the number of closure days possible being reduced each yearl


One thing it requires is for information to flow instantly from each sector to a central authority, followed by number crunching, then orders for the day coming back in time to be distributed to the morning shifts. And the ones that Biden is flying right over the border should also be counted as part of the daily dynamic. One thousand more flights in = One thousand less walk-ins.

It sounds nuts and unmanageable, because it is...

That's done all the time Mike - don't expect everything to run smoothly, because it won't.

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I'm impressed you know how to get that out of a keyboard.

I'm not the OP, but in Burmese: ရုရှားမာဖီးယားဂိုဏ်း

(The "translate selection" browser feature is cool.)

And look. Colorado’s governor has changed his tune. So much for all the support he got from our leftie friends:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/09/surprise-col...

Colorado is a zero tolerance state for illegal activity, taking over buildings has no place in Colorado, and I am confident that the city of Aurora shares this basic value and will enforce the law if it is being violated there. I urge them to do so quickly and in a thorough manner. Over the last month, I have been in regular contact with the City of Aurora and the Aurora Police Department and have offered any and all state assistance to support their efforts if requested. The state has been ready for weeks to back up any operation by the Aurora Police Department needed to make Aurora safer.

Quite the change in tone from the You Proles Are Imagining Things from before.

Notice the “over the last month” part, revealing the lie the original statement always was.

Vote blue, the watch your cities and states bleed red.

And look. Colorado’s governor has changed his tune. So much for all the support he got from our leftie friends:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/09/surprise-col...

Colorado is a zero tolerance state for illegal activity, taking over buildings has no place in Colorado, and I am confident that the city of Aurora shares this basic value and will enforce the law if it is being violated there. I urge them to do so quickly and in a thorough manner. Over the last month, I have been in regular contact with the City of Aurora and the Aurora Police Department and have offered any and all state assistance to support their efforts if requested. The state has been ready for weeks to back up any operation by the Aurora Police Department needed to make Aurora safer

That's not a change at all. He said all that from the git go while also saying they were imagining about the gang because it didn't agree with the police intelligence. I also told you the two councilmen and Mayor claimed that an apartment complex shut down for Health and safety violations six months ago was shut down due to gang activity. Neither claim appears to be true, but if you need help taken a building back, we got your 6.

You do realize that there’s no wall around blue sanctuary cities, right? And that the effects of stupid liberal policies never stay in one spot, right?

The more I look at it the more I think maybe the effects of liberal policies do stay in one spot? (Unfortunately for our friends in the red states!)

Let's look at some additional data shall we?

Blue States have higher Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita.

Blue states are typically less dependent on federal government assistance. States with higher per capita GDP (often blue states) tend to be less reliant on federal funding.
I.E. Blue states contribute more in federal taxes than they receive back in federal spending, effectively subsidizing red states. (Liberals financially supporting MAGAs)

Blue states have lower rates of poverty compared to red states.

Blue states often invest more in infrastructure, leading to better roads and public transportation systems. Who remembers Trumps Infrastructure Week? Facepalm...

Many blue states have expanded Medicaid coverage (Obamacare) and implemented policies to increase healthcare access.

Murder rates have been consistently higher in red states compared to blue states since 2000.
In 2021 and 2022, murder rates in red states were 33% higher than in blue states.
Contributing factors: Higher gun ownership rates in red states, Higher poverty rates in red states, Lower educational attainment in red states

No wonder our MAGA friends are so angry, if I lived in a red state I'd be angry as well. #uneducated,poor,more-likely-to-be-shot,no-healthcare,poor-infrastructure,no-freedom-if-you're-a-woman,MAGA

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/holes-in-...

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-relia...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/07/07...

Blue states are typically less dependent on federal government assistance. States with higher per capita GDP (often blue states) tend to be less reliant on federal funding.

It's amazing to me that the same people who are most opposed to "government handouts" and "government assistance" are often the very ones who are disproportionately receiving it and benefiting from it. Except of course, when their home states' governors helpfully decline it on behalf of all of them. <sigh>

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