Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy❤
No. of Recommendations: 7
I'm sure everybody has read about the Mace staffers being required to open anonymous accounts
on social media, and defend her in the comments section of online articles about her.
It strikes me that there is a decently high probability that some of the MAGA supporters
on Shrewd'm, and on TMF, are paid staffers for various MAGA politicians. I'm talking about
commenters that make the most implausible, nonsensical arguments in support of Trump or
his sycophant's.
I hardly ever engage with them anymore, but the Mace leak from her staffers sure does help
to make sense of some truly irrational positions that are posted.
Congress people like Mace, Boebert, MTG,....., are more concerned with their public image
than actually trying to do their job. Great public policy, lol.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-mace-ran-bot-army..."Mace, a third-term House member with reported ambitions to run for governor, directs staffers to run countless bot accounts and fake social media profiles on her behalf — all with the aim of boosting Mace’s content and messaging,"
"According to a staffer, Mace would allegedly order her underlings to identify criticism of her on social media; a slew of fake accounts would then pile on the offending account"
No. of Recommendations: 3
“ It strikes me that there is a decently high probability that some of the MAGA supporters
on Shrewd'm, and on TMF, are paid staffers for various MAGA politicians. I'm talking about
commenters that make the most implausible, nonsensical arguments in support of Trump or
his sycophant's.“ That’s great. What about the experts here who claim Trump was never unfairly prosecuted, who pays them? Andrew Cuomo , Turley, Dershowitz, Eli Honig , Mark Geragos , I can add five more if you like, they are ALL FKn stupid? Seriously? Please share the opinions of really smart people and help educate us, Thank you.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Andrew Cuomo , Turley, Dershowitz, Eli Honig , Mark Geragos , I can add five more if you like, they are ALL FKn stupid? Seriously?
They are all "Show me the money!".
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
No. of Recommendations: 3
No. of Recommendations: 1
“ FWIW, Turley didn't think the classified records prosecution was unfair:“. Nice try Albaby, what about the 34 felonies pal, focus. If you like to play games come to Vegas, I’ll take you to dinner. Thank you.
No. of Recommendations: 1
“ Andrew Cuomo , Turley, Dershowitz, Eli Honig , Mark Geragos , I can add five more if you like, they are ALL FKn stupid? Seriously?
They are all "Show me the money!" Of course. ☮️
No. of Recommendations: 6
Nice try Albaby, what about the 34 felonies pal, focus. If you like to play games come to Vegas, I’ll take you to dinner. Thank you.Trump was convicted after a trial - which is usually a pretty good indication that there existed sufficient evidence to persuade a jury that the defendant committed actions that violated the criminal law of the jurisdiction.
I mentioned Turley and the classified documents case specifically to illustrate that it can be the case that there are "really smart people" that reach different conclusions about the choice to bring an indictment. I know that you regard Turley as a really smart person - but there he was, disagreeing with Dershowitz and Geragos and the other people on your list about that indictment. Turley thought it was a very strong indictment, even while other Trump supporters disparaged it.
So just throwing out the names of some smart people that disagreed with the decision to charge Trump doesn't indicate that the decision was "unfair" - it simply means that there were smart people willing to opine that it shouldn't have been brought. I personally thought it would be a difficult case to win, and said so on this board:
https://www.shrewdm.com/MB?pid=748907700...but I'm not a prosecutor, and obviously Bragg was correct that this was a case that was legitimate enough to prosecute.
No. of Recommendations: 1
Those five lawyers all opined on the merits of the 34 felony case Al follow? Show us where anyone ever said Trump is perfect in every way and never broke a law, in his life. Smart guys like you are running liberals out of the party Al. Go right ahead and lose in 28 as well, but I expected better from you. Embarrassed liberals have no where to go. 🥲
No. of Recommendations: 7
Show us where anyone ever said Trump is perfect in every way and never broke a law, in his life. Smart guys like you are running liberals out of the party Al. Go right ahead and lose in 28 as well, but I expected better from you.
What are you talking about? I don't think it was politically smart to prosecute Trump for the New York case. That doesn't mean it was unfair to prosecute him for the laws he broke. As you point out, Trump isn't perfect and no one would claim he never broke a law....but many people who break laws end up being prosecuted for them. If you're the sort of person that no one would ever say that he never broke a law, it's not preposterous that you might face charges for one of the laws you broke.
From a political standpoint, prosecuting Trump for that offense was stupid - and I imagine that some (perhaps many) folks in Bidenworld were less than thrilled about it. But they don't get to pick up the phone and call Alvin Bragg and tell him to drop the case.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Show us where anyone ever said Trump is perfect in every way and never broke a law...
But he's POTUS, not just anyone.
And look at what he's doing now. So much corruption. He makes Nixon look like a choir boy.
No. of Recommendations: 12
"Those five lawyers all opined on the merits of the 34 felony case Al follow?" - Harold
Harold, just because you found 5 people who agree with you doesn't make you right.
"Show us where anyone ever said Trump is perfect in every way and never broke a law, in his life. " - Harold
LOL. That is your usual red herring. It is a great indicator you are losing badly. You always pretend the conversation was about something else.
" Smart guys like you are running liberals out of the party Al. Go right ahead and lose in 28 as well, but I expected better from you. Embarrassed liberals have no where to go." - Harold
Ignorant dumbasses like you are destroying the country. I would rather destroy a political party than the greatest country on earth. Do you have any shame?
No. of Recommendations: 3
"As you point out, Trump isn't perfect and no one would claim he never broke a law....but many people who break laws end up being prosecuted for them." - Albaby
Do you think Dope thinks he broke the law? Serious question.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Ignorant dumbasses like you are destroying the country. I would rather destroy a political party than the greatest country on earth. Do you have any shame?
To be a Trumper is to have no shame, just like Donny. Or else be hopelessly ignorant.
No. of Recommendations: 6
Do you think Dope thinks he broke the law? Serious question.
Always risky to guess what another person thinks - and Dope might come along to tell you that I've guessed wrong.
But I think that based on the various conversations we've had, Dope does not believe Trump broke the law. Or at worst, that he only broke the law the way everyone breaks the law, in a Three Felonies a Day sense. That's a book that came out about fifteen years ago that outlined how both the number of federal crimes and the scope of interpretation of broadly-worded federal crimes had expanded so much that there isn't a single adult in the country who doesn't inadvertently or unknowingly commit several federal crimes a day.
No. of Recommendations: 5
"Three Felonies a Day" sense. That's a book that came out about fifteen years ago that outlined how both the number of federal crimes and the scope of interpretation of broadly-worded federal crimes had expanded so much that there isn't a single adult in the country who doesn't inadvertently or unknowingly commit several federal crimes a day.SNIP The very expansiveness of federal law turns nearly everyone into lawbreakers. Like the poor Soviet citizen who, on average, broke about three laws a day, a typical American will unwittingly break federal law several times daily. Many go to prison for things that historically never have been seen as criminal.
Writing about the Kafkaesque nature of the federal system, Silverglate notes:
Prosecutors are able to structure plea bargains in ways that make it nearly impossible for normal, rational, self-interest calculating people to risk going to trial. The pressure on innocent defendants to plead guilty and “cooperate” by testifying against others in exchange for a reduced sentence is enormous—so enormous that such cooperating witnesses often fail to tell the truth, saying, instead, what prosecutors want to hear. SNIP
https://fee.org/articles/three-felonies-a-day-how-...Had to look that one up. I had a pilot friend who had lived in Singapore. One day he said, "You know Singapore has made so many things illegal, against the rules, that you can be just walking down the street on the sidewalk and violate the law." I talked to another Singaporean, and that person said, "If they want to question you, they just need to watch you, question people who know you, and they then have enough to take you in and question you."
I think that the system is becoming more pretext prone because of the example of Trump. YOU brought up plea bargains one time and said you'd have to take it into serious considerations if you got an offer of 18 months with six months already served, and 25 years if you lost in court, and you have kids. There is no doubt in my mind there are people who've plead guilty to things they didn't do because of this. Rude conclusion.
