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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48489 
Subject: How Biden will win
Date: 05/09/2024 6:57 PM
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It's right here in the US Criminal Code:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/611

Will be interesting to see how this gets used.

(a)It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner

Life is full of loopholes. Here's the big glaring one here:

(c)Subsection (a) does not apply to an alien if—
(1)each natural parent of the alien (or, in the case of an adopted alien, each adoptive parent of the alien) is or was a citizen (whether by birth or naturalization);
(2)the alien permanently resided in the United States prior to attaining the age of 16; and
(3)the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.


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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/09/2024 7:29 PM
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Also this....

“Breaking: House Democrats Vote UNANIMOUSLY to Give Illegal Aliens Representation in Congress and the Electoral College”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/breaking-...
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/09/2024 8:40 PM
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The U.S. Constitution, you know that thing traitors tried to overthrow on January 6th, specifies that a count of the entire population is to be undertaken for the purpose of legislative representation.

Entire population, not just citizens.

I’m sure your copy of the Trump Bible contains a copy of the Constitution. Look it up.

When Stephen Miller is your source for news, you lose.

Every single time.

Hi LM, how have you been?

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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/09/2024 11:17 PM
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(3)the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

"A reasonable belief is a belief based on facts that would lead a reasonable person (to think that he was a citizen.) A reasonable belief is more than suspicion. There must be some objective basis for the belief. However, it does not require certainty."

There's usually a reasonable person standard and not idiosyncratic beliefs. As you see it requires some objective basis. History shows us we've never had any real problem with illegals voting. Any mistakes have not been outcome determinative.

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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 10:43 AM
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Entire population, not just citizens.

Sure, and for that purpose Biden’s you all come open border policy ensures the democrats
an unreasonable, if not illegal edge for voting democrat.
Ask an illegal alien their opinion of Biden? “We love, love, love Biden. He gives us free everything.” Considering the amount of the illegal population now in NYC and state, you will pay dearly in taxes to support them while budgets are being cut for the safety and welfare of legal American citizens in your state.

Hi LM, how have you been?

Well, what a nice surprise to see you here.

Aside from major health problems this year we are adjusting and doing well.

Last I remember you welcomed a new grandchild into your family fold.
That must be a couple years ago now.
How about an update on your grandkid(s)?



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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 11:07 AM
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LurkerMom: Sure, and for that purpose Biden’s you all come open border policy ensures the democrats
an unreasonable, if not illegal edge for voting democrat.


It’s a federal crime for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. It’s also a crime under every state’s laws. In fact, under federal law, you could face up to five years in prison simply for registering to vote. It’s also a deportable offense for noncitizens to register or vote. And sure, people make bad decisions and commit crimes all the time. But this one is different: by committing the crime, you create a government record of your having committed it. In fact, it’s the creation of the government record — the registration form or the ballot cast — that is the crime.

In short, it doesn't happen except in the minds of the Orange Turd's cult.

And yes, his lawyer read his nickname, Orange Turd, into the court record this week.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 11:20 AM
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LurkerMom: Sure, and for that purpose Biden’s you all come open border policy ensures the democrats
an unreasonable, if not illegal edge for voting democrat.


You are establishing the 'best' record for being wrong on this board.

A bipartisan immigration bill was going to be passed and signed by Biden UNTIL Trump said, oh no you don't, I need to campaign on the issue, so you will NOT pass a border bill. So just shut up about Biden on this issue.

And, of course, your whole theory about it helping Biden with the vote is just ridiculous. You should understand that.
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Author: Umm 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 11:38 AM
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"Sure, and for that purpose Biden’s you all come open border policy ensures the democrats
an unreasonable, if not illegal edge for voting democrat."


So much ignorance in one simple sentence.

Personally, if I was that ignorant on a subject I would stop talking and start learning before constantly making myself look like a fool.

YMMV
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Author: Umm 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 11:42 AM
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Your lack of knowledge about the law and how it is interpreted does not mean there is a loophole allowing illegals to vote.

It just means that you foolishly fell for yet another nutty trope from people looking to take advantage of your nativity.

Another Dope foolish special. Always entertaining.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 12:24 PM
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When Biden gets 90 million votes despite being historically unpopular, the drones and bots will claim Because Trump. They’re just as corrupt as Biden is.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 1:48 PM
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Umm....

Who let you out of the kennel? Somebody throw him a bone lest his
snarling might scare someone.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 1:53 PM
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umm: Personally, if I was that ignorant

You’d best then shut up and coherently post a post worth reading.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 1:56 PM
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Who let you out of the kennel? Somebody throw him a bone lest his
snarling might scare someone.


Nobody ever gets startled by a barking chihuahua.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 1:59 PM
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Hi, Umm!
If LM hadn't said who it was, I would have missed this. You were the very first person I used the wonderful Ignore feature on.

Out of curiosity I had to see what you said. This struck me as particularly funny:

Your lack of knowledge about the law and how it is interpreted does not mean there is a loophole allowing illegals to vote.


I literally posted the link to the entire USC section. That "United States Code" in case you were not familiar. Don't think there's any interpretation issues there.

Try again, homie! Maybe one day you'll have enough game to matter around here, but until then...back on Ignore you go.

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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 2:29 PM
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Try again, homie! Maybe one day you'll have enough game to matter around here, but until then...back on Ignore you go.

I would think after a couple decades (TMF) umm would understand we couldn’t care less about his playground bullying. So stupid. Ya, I’ll put him back on ignore too, lest I waste anymore time on s/he.

Snarl away umm, you’ll just be pissing in the wind.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 3:19 PM
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Dope1: When Biden gets 90 million votes despite being historically unpopular, the drones and bots will claim Because Trump. They’re just as corrupt as Biden is.

Well, he is running against an adulterer and rapist who assembled a mob in DC, incited that mob to attack the U.S. Capitol by telling them the vice president had failed to do the right thing after spending over an hour telling the mob that if they did not "fight like hell" they would not have a country anymore. The Orange Turd pressured and threatened election officials in Georgia, telling them to find him 11,780 votes or they could be facing legal jeopardy, and conspired to replace legitimate electors with fake electors in key swing states. The Orange Turd called American war dead losers and suckers. The Orange Turd committed fraud. And the Orange Turd admitted removing over 100 highly classified documents -- including war plans and nuclear secrets -- then lied about returning them, hid them, obstructed the investigation of their discovery and return under subpoena, but, laughably, claims he's entitled to keep them because of the PRA.

So, yeah, I could see Biden getting 90,000,000 votes.

And no, Arizona does not allow "illegal immigrants" to vote by simply asking for a "federal only" ballot. Anyone who votes on a "federal only" ballot must provide proof of citizenship to vote a "full ballot", as stated by the AZ secretary of state:

A person is not required to submit proof of citizenship with the voter registration form, but failure to do so means the person will only be eligible to vote in federal elections (known as being a "federal only" voter). A "federal only" voter will become eligible to vote a "full ballot" in all federal, state, county and local elections if he or she later provides valid proof of citizenship to the appropriate County Recorder's office.

https://azsos.gov/elections/voters/registering-vot...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 3:34 PM
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Well, he is running aga

He's running against a guy whom *you* hate and have been programmed to rail against 24/7...most voters don't share your obsessions.

And no, Arizona does not allow "illegal immigrants" to vote by simply asking for a "federal only" ballot. Anyone who votes on a "federal only" ballot must provide proof of citizenship to vote a "full ballot", as stated by the AZ secretary of state:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Yeah, you people don't cheat.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 4:01 PM
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Dope1: He's running against a guy whom *you* hate and have been programmed to rail against 24/7...

I'll ask you again, as I did the last time you said this but failed to provide an answer: what have I written that is not completely accurate?

Dope: Yeah, you people don't cheat.

Cheat how, exactly? Georgia, controlled by republicans, did hand counts and there was no cheating, no fraud, no illegal voting. And again, there's literally never been more than a handful of illegal voters ever (usually republicans, BTW, who voted for Trump illegally) and republicans, though in control of voting in many states, have never been able to provide a shred of evidence to support this nonsense.

As Speaker Johnson said a couple of days ago: we have no evidence, we have no statistics, but we believe illegals vote.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 4:32 PM
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I'll ask you again, as I did the last time you said this but failed to provide an answer: what have I written that is not completely accurate?

You're the most mendacious and deceptive person I have ever run across on the internet. There's literally nothing you type that when placed in context is very factual.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/10/2024 5:10 PM
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They’re just as corrupt as Biden is.</i?

Pulled that out of your *ss, didn't you. No such corruption.

Now, Trump OTOH is a corrupt grifter to his core and the evidence is all over the place and has been pointed out to you many times.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/11/2024 3:37 AM
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That's the problem with people of faith, like Johnson (and many on the right). They don't need evidence or facts to believe something. Even with facts contradicting their position, they still believe it.
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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/11/2024 8:47 AM
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Aside from major health problems this year we are adjusting and doing well.

I am so sorry to hear this. I only hope for the best outcomes for you and your family.

How about an update on your grandkid(s)?

Our oldest son has 3 sons ages 10 through 3. They are smart, funny, and extremely rambunctious. And quite athletic, all due to their marathon-running mother’s genes (certainly didn’t come from our side of the family LOL). High energy would be an understatement.

Our youngest son has an almost 2 year old daughter who is smart, beautiful (again, mom’s genes), a terror in her own right, and has me tightly wrapped around her extremely cute little finger. One smile and I’m handing her all my credit cards. They’re expecting a son later this year.

We never get to see any of them enough.

Do you have grandchildren?
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/11/2024 9:17 AM
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That's the problem with people of faith, like Johnson (and many on the right). They don't need evidence or facts to believe something. Even with facts contradicting their position, they still believe it.

In my youth, when all the tough questions about my religion were answered with "you just have to have faith", I started to realize a lot of it was just bullshit.

Trump cultists just have to have faith. No other way to sustain their belief in their Orange Jesus.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/21/2024 4:10 PM
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We never get to see any of them enough.

Do you have grandchildren?


Catching up..

Warms my heart reading about your grandchildren. They have stolen your heart. ❤️
You are Blessed.
I always enjoy hearing from friends stories about their grandchildren and young children.

No, I don’t have grandchildren. I have two grown sons, both doing well, and always checking in
making sure mom and dad are okay.

Side note, now that nice weather has finally arrived here in tundra country I will be spending
less time on the Boards, but will drop in now and then.

Have a nice summer Alphawolf and to all.

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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: How Biden will win
Date: 05/21/2024 7:16 PM
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If your kids are always checking in on you, you raised them right. Honestly, I’m not surprised.

I’m also spending time walking with Ms. Wolf and many hours working on our garden, which I love.

I hope you have a great summer, too. Please enjoy and stay well.
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