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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48447 
Subject: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/20/2025 7:54 PM
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"I love the poorly educated!" ~Trump

Trump signs order to eliminate Department of Education...
The senile sociopath who doesn't know the difference between a transgenic mouse and a transgender mouse wants to eliminate the Dept. Of Education.

"WASHINGTON, March 20 (Reuters) - Flanked by students, U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday signed an executive order intended to essentially dismantle the federal Department of Education, making good on a longstanding campaign promise to conservatives."

Of course this will harm MAGA children the most as the red states that voted for Trump receive considerably more federal education funding than blue states.
"This higher reliance on federal education funding in red states is largely due to their lower overall wealth, which limits their capacity to make up the difference with state and local funds."
"For example: Mississippi, a red state, had the highest proportion of federal public school funding at 23%.
"South Dakota and Arkansas, also red states, followed with 22% each.
In contrast, New York, a blue state, had the lowest federal funding proportion at 7%."

As Trump talks about his executive order to dismantle the DOE, he praises Scandinavian countries like Norway, Denmark, Finland and Sweden for their excellent educational systems!
LOL Now he loves Socialism!

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-takes-fresh...

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/05/trump-federal-edu...
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48447 
Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 7:58 AM
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The convicted felon who paid someone to take his SAT's and was found guilty of running a fraudulent university signed an Executive Order dismantling The Department of Education...

"Throughout history, tyrants have understood that their major enemy is an educated citizenry.
Slaveholders prohibited the enslaved from learning to read. Nazis burned books. Putin and Xi censor the media.
Ignorance is the handmaiden of tyranny."

"Today, Trump is dismantling much of the Department of Education. He has ordered wrestling executive-turned-Education Secretary Linda McMahon to shut most of her department, although student loans and special education funding will continue. His executive order will effectively destroy a $100 billion-a-year executive department created by Congress under President Jimmy Carter 45 years ago."

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/trumps-attack-o...

Trump lost college educated women 61% to 37%.
Trump lost non college educated women 53% to 45%.
Trump lost college educated men 49% to 48%.
Trump won non college educated men 61% to 37%.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." ~Thomas Jefferson

"The Whole People must take it upon themselves the Education of the Whole People and must be willing to bear the expenses of it.
There should not be a district of one Mile Square without a school in it, not founded by a Charitable individual but maintained at the expense of the People
themselves, they must be taught to reverence themselves instead of being adoring servants to their Generals, Admirals, Bishops and Statesmen." ~John Adams

"Laws for liberal education of youth, especially of the lower class of people, are so extremely wise and useful, that, to a humane and generous mind,
no expense for this purpose would be thought extravagant.” ~John Adams

"If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security." ~Samuel Adams

"The most effectual means of preventing the perversion of power into tyranny are to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large,
and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries,
they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes." ~Thomas Jefferson

"I love the uneducated!" ~Donald Trump

"Arnold Palmer was all man!...This is a guy that was all man. When he took showers with the other pros,
they came out of there, and said, Oh my God. That's unbelievable!" ~Donald Trump
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Author: EchotaBaaa   😊 😞
Number: of 48447 
Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 9:55 AM
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When will White Racist Liberal Slaveowners at least *pretend* to acknowledge that their precious education system has left many many many behind -- like White Liberals love doing to people?

I admit 100% - the concept, the idea, the execution of the Public School system, the right to Public Schooling ---is marvelous, and part of what "Made America Great" - see? I can admit that. I can do nuance.

But I'm tired of 401K'ers totally ignoring the plight of their slaves from Detroit to Baltimore. Is trump going to fix that? Hell no I'm not sure he can fix a light bulb.

But, Haughty Racist White Liberals won't fix it either ----they caused it on purpose and are afraid to lose this power.

As usual, your tribes cannot come together on even this issue, that affects ALL of us. Rich poor kids no kids, whatever.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48447 
Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 2:29 PM
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I don't pretend to know if he actually has this authority, but I suspect he doesn't. I base this on all the court cases he has lost thus far while trying to "pare-down" the government. Granted, those cases aren't final. They are TROs. But, from what I gather, he doesn't have that authority, which is why the TROs were issued.

Though it is more of a slam-dunk in the case of Musk. He definitely doesn't have the authority, and neither does his "DOGE" (no matter which way they try to justify the existence of DOGE, it's not kosher, and that's a bigger lawsuit that is in the works).
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 2:41 PM
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I don't pretend to know if he actually has this authority, but I suspect he doesn't.

He has the authority to sign the EO, of course. And it's been drafted in such a way that the EO itself is probably within his authority - it directs his subordinates to eliminate the DOE as much as possible consistent with the law.

Whether any specific elimination/transfer of activity is consistent with law is subject to dispute, of course - there have already been lawsuits fighting back against the ending/destaffing/suspension of various programs, like some of the low-income student loan repayment programs. And of course, major changes in government policy are often covered by the Administrative Procedure Act - so sometimes even changes that the government is allowed to make have to be done through those more formal procedures.

But as a general matter, if the President directs the Sec of Ed to eliminate everything in the Department that isn't required to be in the Department by law, and to conduct that elimination in accordance with law, that's probably something he's allowed to do. The Department wouldn't be eliminated, absent Congressional action - but it would be stripped of everything it was doing that wasn't required to be in DOE and not some other agency by law.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 4:03 PM
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...consistent with law...

From what I know, that isn't what is happening. As you say, they have to abide by the APA. Perhaps the latest EO directs them to do that? If so, then it likely is legal (if stupid). I haven't seen the text of the EO, but I suspect it's more "take a chainsaw too it, and let them try to stop you" than "follow the APA to systematically shut down the agency". That's his style.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 4:11 PM
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I don't pretend to know if he actually has this authority, but I suspect he doesn't.

He doesn’t, and he won’t.

Expect a big sign over a building, DEPT OF education”. There will even be a directory on the wall in the lobby, directing you to the various offices.

But beyond the lobby, the rooms will be bare with nobody home.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Signs Order To Eliminate DOE
Date: 03/21/2025 4:12 PM
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From what I know, that isn't what is happening. As you say, they have to abide by the APA. Perhaps the latest EO directs them to do that? If so, then it likely is legal (if stupid).

Yes, it directs them to do that. These things go through at least one pass through legal, after all. The EO, like most of the ones he's issued, contains boilerplate language that has the following:

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/20...

The Department will probably take a maximalist position on what they're allowed to change without having to go through APA rulemaking, but the EO itself doesn't excuse them from whatever the APA requires. So it's probably perfectly legal, because it's appropriately caveated.

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