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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Something conservative...
Date: 03/28/2024 6:59 PM
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I agree with mostly.

DeSantis eliminates 'squatters' rights' in Florida, gives power to cops to remove offenders
Desantis says Florida is 'ending the squatters scam'

My reservations would be where people have been scammed into thinking they are renting or leasing a property. They may noy be legally on the property, but they deserve a very short period of time to relocate their property to lower the harm. Emphasis on short.



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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/28/2024 8:11 PM
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DeSantis eliminates 'squatters' rights' in Florida, gives power to cops to remove offenders
Desantis says Florida is 'ending the squatters scam'

My reservations would be where people have been scammed into thinking they are renting or leasing a property. They may noy be legally on the property, but they deserve a very short period of time to relocate their property to lower the harm. Emphasis on short. - Lapsody


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I heard some reporting to the effect that removal of the squatter is not immediate, as you mention.

However, and this is the beauty of this law, if the squatter has done more the $1,000 damage to the property, his unauthorized occupation is upgraded to a felony with immediate arrest and harsh penalties. This makes perfect sense, if you think you made a legitimate lease, you don't break out a window to get in, or paint grafitti everywhere or punch holes in the sheet rock to make your rental feel more like home.

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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/28/2024 8:29 PM
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The Bee had a great headline the other day:

https://babylonbee.com/news/desantis-kicked-out-of...

TALLAHASSEE, FL — The political landscape was rocked to its core today, with reverberations sure to be felt for several years, as Governor Ron DeSantis was kicked out of the Republican Party for accomplishing too many things.

The fact that in many blue places you can basically occupy whatever space you want and call it yours is...insane.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/29/2024 4:44 AM
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The fact that in many blue places you can basically occupy whatever space you want and call it yours is...insane.

It isn't a "blue" thing. Happens round the world. Sometimes the case law needs new freshly written law to counter abuse. I studied Philippine land law because foreigners cannot own land.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/29/2024 1:55 PM
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I studied Philippine land law because foreigners cannot own land.

The Philippines is dicey. One of my wife's distant relatives has a piece of land. They finally decided to build on it, but there were squatters that had built a shack on one corner of the property. The squatters threatened the rightful owners if they tried to build, or tried to move them. The cops weren't interested until a "fee" was paid. Then they ran the squatters off (though, apparently, there is still some trepidation that the squatters might come back to exact revenge; though less likely since the cops got their "fee").

1poorlady occasionally mentions moving there because it is cheaper. But I don't think I could handle that sort of thing, and she's been in the US long enough I'm not sure she could either. She's still Filipina through-and-through, but a bit Americanized now. She doesn't just accept that you need to pay people off anymore.
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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/29/2024 7:53 PM
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The Philippines is dicey.


You build an ocean view property on AG zoned land, and following the rules you have a setback of say 200 feet, and there's a 40 meter salvage zone from the mean high tide that belongs to the government. Squatters build a concrete b lack hut in the middle, obscuring your view of the ocean. Now you are trying to get someone evicted from property you don't own because it obstructs your view.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/29/2024 8:41 PM
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Personal experience? I'm assuming you mean in the 40m zone? I would think govt would handle that since it's their land.

I did note a lot less squatter areas when we were in Manila in January. A lot of things had changed, but I remember a few specific locations, and the ramshackle dwellings in some places were gone (e.g. a particular set of railroad tracks we had to go by to get to the house in Santa Rosa; they had been built in the strips on either side of the tracks).

I also noticed that the roads were a bit better. Jeeps were still running, even though supposedly a new law was taking effect while we were there. It was an anti-pollution law. Which I would totally support, but I think the government should help Jeep operators bring their vehicles up to whatever the code is because the Jeepney is iconic of the Philippines. I also noticed a lot less tricycles, and more tuk-tuk style bikes. Which was interesting. My BiL owned an electric tuk-tuk that he used to zip around Santa Rosa. I still wouldn't want to drive in the Philippines, but it was better (in general) than my previous visits.

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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Something conservative...
Date: 03/30/2024 10:52 AM
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Personal experience? I'm assuming you mean in the 40m zone? I would think govt would handle that since it's their land.

No. Of course. No, have you ever enjoyed the experience of trying to get the Philippine Government to do something for you? It depends on where you are. One expat got frustrated and bulldozed down the house. Another bribed both the government and the squatters to get them off the land. Some people have no problem bu it takes two years. Maybe you get lucky.

I lived in Lahug, Cebu, next to a squatter area for a year. I was surprised they built low to medium quality housing (tin shacks to actual dwellings with nice roofs and sides. There was little improvement while I was there, but they built a new fancy bridge, which helped traffic. They need to get very tough on encroachments, because everyone does it, and Permit Issuers get bribed to easily. So the sidewalks get blocked by parking, the streets get narrowed by people walking om the streets because the sidewalks are blocked. Not everywhere, but a lot. I bought my wife a gas tuk-tuk and she went everywhere. Get to the states and she's afraid to drive. Go figure. My wife wanted to own her own Jeepney and take her friends places. I like the look of the old style Jeepney, not the new ones.

If you buy property in the Phils, it's a good idea to walk the perimeter with someone and video it.
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