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Author: WendyBG   😊 😞
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Subject: Chinese supercomputer fasted with CPUs
Date: 06/23/26 12:29 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/23/technology/chin...


China Takes Supercomputer Crown From U.S. for First Time Since 2017

A supercomputer in Shenzhen was declared the world’s fastest. It uses only standard microprocessors and not the special-purpose chips called graphics processing units.

By Don Clark, The New York Times, June 23, 2026

China took back a coveted computing crown from the United States on Tuesday, ratcheting up a fierce technological competition that has implications for science, national security and geopolitics.

LineShine, a massive computing system in Shenzhen, China, was declared the world’s fastest by a group of researchers using a set of standard tests for supercomputers. Besides raw speed, the system stood out because it uses only standard microprocessors and not the special-purpose chips called graphics processing units, which most high-end supercomputers rely on for heavy number crunching…

China’s LineShine system does not separate the traditional jobs of microprocessors and GPUs, as most high-end systems do. Instead, it builds in GPU-style tasks with specialized circuitry that accelerates matrix and vector calculations. That ability is embedded in chips that have a total of nearly 14 million computing cores, or tiny electronic brains, installed in 90 hardware cabinets.

These chips are an original design based on a set of instructions licensed by Arm Holdings, a British company that is controlled by the Japanese conglomerate SoftBank. Arm’s technology is best known for powering smartphones but has lately been adapted by Nvidia, Amazon, Qualcomm and others for use in data centers…
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What were the steps in designing and building this supercomputer?

1. Who designed the specialized CPU chips? The custom CPU is a Chinese design named the LX2 processor running on a platform called “LingKun.” The design incorporates Armv9 architecture coupled with proprietary Chinese engineering. It features an unprecedented 304 cores per chip, allowing the system to achieve a massive total of nearly 14 million computing cores.

2. The instructions were licensed by Arm Holdings, a British company.

3. Arm Holdings is controlled by the Japanese conglomerate SoftBank.

4. LineShine’s designers, who are supercomputer veterans in China, have not disclosed details about which company manufactured the chips or the level of chip production technology used. Were they made by TSMC? Does China have a fab that can produce an unlimited number of these specialized CPUs?

5. The LineShine system was supposedly made without government funding. Who owns it? It is owned and operated by regional public/state-affiliated computing centers in Shenzhen.

6. How do the costs of this system compare with a comparable supercomputer with GPUs? While exact dollar figures remain undisclosed, a CPU-only supercomputer of this scale is incredibly expensive to build and operate compared to a GPU-reliant one.

7. What are the implications for NVIDIA and other U.S. chip makers? For generative AI, NVIDIA’s specialized Tensor cores are still vastly superior. LineShine shows that China can build massive machines, but they are specialized for engineering/physics calculations rather than modern AI training.

8. What are the implications for U.S. computer manufacturers? LineShine’s success will force U.S. manufacturers and the Department of Energy to rethink architectural diversity and ensure that massive, CPU-heavy parallel architectures are not entirely ignored.

9. What are the implications for U.S. national security? Supercomputers are heavily utilized for simulating nuclear weapons stockpiles, cryptanalysis, aerospace design, and hypersonic weapon modeling. LineShine proves that China possesses the independent, domestic computing power to run these advanced national security simulations at speeds faster than any U.S. lab.

10. Which is more useful for practical purposes, generative AI or focused AI like the Chinese system?

If your practical goal is to write a piece of software, draft a business strategy, or summarize data, generative AI is infinitely more useful.

However, if your goal is to design a breakthrough jet engine, predict a hurricane’s path, or simulate a nuclear reaction, generative AI is useless because it “hallucinates” and guesses numbers. For those tasks, the brute-force, high-precision mathematical certainty of a CPU-heavy supercomputer is the only tool that works.

Wendy

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Author: OrmontUS   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Chinese supercomputer fasted with CPUs
Date: 06/23/26 9:38 PM
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A disclosure before plowing into this: Softbank was one of the first stocks I bought on the Tokyo exchange - I forget how long ago it was, but it's treated me very well (up nearly 600%). When investing in technology, they always seem to be at the right place at the right time.

Maybe I'm antiquated, but I don't separate the world into CPU's and GPU's. I started with microcomputers when they were still based on glorified machine-control chips. Over the years, I saw arithmetic processing chips sit next to Intel CPU's until they were incorporated. I saw RISC (reduced instruction set chips) chips steal the high road for a while. Then the ability of graphics cards (such as those made by Nvidia) to do math faster than the Intel and AMD designed CPU's and, all of a sudden, it seems like they were a different beast entirely.

There seem to be only a handful of ways to make a faster (non-quantum) computer.

Add more cores to an existing design
Add more chips in a larger multiprocessing matrix - and create efficient software to control each CPU doing is own thing and then re-assembling
Add auxiliary chips which offload specific functions and handle them quicker than the "main" CPU
Modify the complexity of the operating system/instruction set to perform the same tasks more efficiently

While you may think that the same functions could have been done "cheaper" with Nvidia chips, first of all, the toys they used are significantly less expensive than most CPU's let along GPU's, and more importantly, they are likely beyond the reach of the US ability to sanction them.

The Chinese trick was, not only to create a matrix of an apparently vast number of "mini" CPU's, but equally importantly, to create a software environment to control this multi-processor behemoth.

Wendy mentions: "However, if your goal is to design a breakthrough jet engine, predict a hurricane’s path, or simulate a nuclear reaction, generative AI is useless because it “hallucinates” and guesses numbers. For those tasks, the brute-force, high-precision mathematical certainty of a CPU-heavy supercomputer is the only tool that works".

I have done some pretty diverse projects recently using three different AI's - ChatGPT, Gemini and Claude. While they each have different strengths - and weaknesses, I find the sfest way to use them is to have one critique the work done by another.

For assembling an essay using content found on the Web, Gemini clearly has an advantage. For doing technical scientific/engineering/programing projects, Claude brute forces to a reasonable solution. While trying to get ChatGPT to actually "do" anything technical is one of life's great frustrations, it excels on finding ways to tell Claude how to improve its results. If I was a verbose document created (whether an eight page love poem or a legal protest), ChatGPT seems to have the edge.

While blatant hallucinations are not as frequent a problem as they were in the past, EV EVRYTHING created by an AI (especially ChatGPT) should be read (and reread) before sending out - not only to trap hallucinations, but to "correct" verbiage which which it has decided is appropriate but sounds too weird for one reason or another.

I think the difference between how AI is used in China compared to the US is that they are rapidly applying it to their social structure and our companies are competing to be king of the mountain without regard for the money others are pouring into the process. Think of the amount of money lost building the original attempts at the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal and the world's railroad infrastructure (not to mention the internet). A few companies drifted to the top and became wildly profitable, while the majority snk into oblivion and most investors got fleeced.

Jeff
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