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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Date: 11/11/25 1:20 PM
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While the shutdown head to head consumes Democrats and Republicans….

Trump goes down his list of criminal accomplices in attempting to overthrow the results of the 2020 election:

Rudy, Cheesbro et al, and I do mean et al

and pardons ALL of them.

Marco will be along directly and tell us that it was all perfectly legal.

Fortunately, state charges/convictions are not affected

PS In Germany, Hitler’s Final Solution was also perfectly legal.

No, I am not equating Trump’s pardons with Hitler’s Final Solution, but I am pointing to the huge ethical and moral hole that often exists at the heart of the argument that something is “perfectly legal”.
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Then you'd be comparing Biden to Hitler, right?

Biden pardoned his entire family.
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Trump goes down his list of criminal accomplices in attempting to overthrow the results of the 2020 election:

Rudy, Cheesbro et al, and I do mean et al…


And I've wondered if this is a signal to current accomplices that they'll be pardoned before he leaves office, so let the vote shenanigans begin! On another note, the USSC will decide whether mail in votes received after election day are allowable. Voter suppression up, democratic principles down.
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“ Hitler’s Final Solution was also perfectly legal.”

The construction of the apartheid state was legal as well. Those fascists were downright anal in establishing the legal and constitutional basis of white supremacy. Come think of it, so were we.

Centrists think you can play by the same rules when playing with fascists. They lose every time.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Then you'd be comparing Biden to Hitler, right?

Nope, but then again, I specifically didn’t compare Trump to Hitler either.

Pay attention, little marco
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Date: 11/11/25 1:58 PM
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The government shutdown had nothing to do with apartheid nor the final solution. Being irrational is not a viable strategy in politics or life.

The Senate voted 60-40 to open the government without kowtowing to King Schumer's blackmail tactics re: ACA enhanced Covid subsidies.

60-40. That's a landslide.

That's democracy. Not apartheid, not the final solution.

If you think democracy in action is the equivalent of apartheid or the final solution morally or ethically,
then you're the problem. And everyone like you.
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Then you'd be comparing Biden to Hitler, right?

Biden pardoned his entire family.


To avoid being attacked by a psychopath is why he pardoned them. HB needed a pardon, the rest didn't. Cheese still can't practice, the pardon had no effect on that. Giuliani lost a lot of money lying for Trump, it's the least he could do. And pardoning everyone gives a signal to the current accomplices. Epstein let us know when he said Trump had no scruples - that's from a person who knew him closely for 10 years.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Not that I'm comparing wbaloney to Hitler, but...Hitler liked baloney sandwiches.
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Biden pardoned his entire family.

"But-what-about-ism", also known as "tu quoque". It is a logical fallacy. A flaw in thinking or argument (or both). It is irrelevant to the Felon's pardoning of all the people who tried to overthrow our democracy 5 years ago.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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Centrists think you can play by the same rules when playing with fascists. They lose every time.

There’s no compromising with fascists, unfortunately.
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Author: wzambon 🐝 HONORARY
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The government shutdown had nothing to do with apartheid nor the final solution.

And nobody said it did, little marco.

Are you really that dense? Or are you trying to evade the main point?

Go back and re-read my OP. Then come back and discuss if you wish
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