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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Fact Checking Biden
Date: 03/08/2024 12:50 PM
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You can pick your source but they're all reporting basically the same analysis:

1. Biden on Trump and the national debt: Biden’s numbers are correct; the national debt rose from about $19.9 trillion to about $27.8 trillion during Trump’s tenure, an increase of about 39% and more than in any other four-year presidential term, in part because of Trump’s major tax cuts.

2. The economy has added ‘800,000 new manufacturing jobs’: Biden’s figure is correct.

3. Biden on the deficit impact of IRA Medicare provisions: It’s true that two of the main drug price provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act, which Democrats pushed through Congress in 2022, are expected to reduce the deficit by $160 billion...

4. Biden and the deficit: Misleading. While it is true that the annual federal budget deficit was more than $1 trillion lower in the 2023 fiscal year, it did so because it had skyrocketed to a record high at the end of Trump’s term.

5. Biden's ‘15 million new jobs’ in three years: Biden’s claim is correct.

6. Biden on the corporate minimum tax: This only applies to companies with at least $1 billion in average annual income. According to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, only 14 of the companies on its list of 55 non-payers reported having US pre-tax income of at least $1 billion.

7. Violent crime has fallen to lowest levels in ‘more than 50 years’: This is true.

And you can read the rest yourself. Basically, his other statements were rated as either "True" or "Needs context," with CNN providing explanations.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/politics/fact-check...
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Fact Checking Biden
Date: 03/08/2024 1:58 PM
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And you can read the rest yourself. Basically, his other statements were rated as either "True" or "Needs context," with CNN providing explanations.

I heard that Trump was going to be "fact checking" Biden's SOTU in real time on his Truth Social app. I won't bother to look it up, but I assume it was a non-stop litany of falsehoods.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Fact Checking Biden
Date: 03/08/2024 2:32 PM
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Biden's speech was something else. These "Need context" flags are the media's way of saying "lying his ass off".

https://archive.is/tRXQI#selection-1033.0-1074.0


On "Putting Social Security on the chopping block"

Republicans are not currently calling for cuts to Social Security, though some have in the past suggested changes, such as having the program be brought up for regular renewal rather than treated as mandatory spending. Many have distanced themselves from that concept.
Mr. Biden also could have been referring to a budget put forward last year by a large conservative group on Capitol Hill, the Republican Study Committee.
That plan, light on details, called for “modest changes” to the Social Security for people who are “not near retirement” — including benefit formula adjustments and shifting the retirement age for future recipients “to account for increases in life expectancy.”
But it did not outline specific figures and emphasized that it would not affect benefits “for any senior in or near retirement.”
It’s unclear whether such a proposal would gain enough support among Republican lawmakers to pass. Former President Donald J. Trump said in a video address last year that “under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security.” (He, like Mr. Biden, has also not put forward a clear plan for keeping the program solvent.)
The Republican Study Committee, for its part, said in its budget that not addressing the program’s finances will lead to cuts. Social Security’s main trust fund is currently projected to be depleted in 2033, meaning the program would then be able to pay only about three-quarters of total scheduled benefits.


In other words, "on the chopping block" is a blatant lie.

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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Fact Checking Biden
Date: 03/08/2024 3:13 PM
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g0177325: I heard that Trump was going to be "fact checking" Biden's SOTU in real time on his Truth Social app. I won't bother to look it up, but I assume it was a non-stop litany of falsehoods.

As is often the case with all things related to His Orangeness, his social media site crashed with outages numbered in the thousands before Biden even entered the House chamber, lingering for at least an hour before and into his remarks. As for "fact checking," Trump wouldn't know fact if it bit him on the butt.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/disaster-trump-truth-soc...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2909866/st...
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Author: sheila727   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Fact Checking Biden
Date: 03/08/2024 7:50 PM
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As for "fact checking," Trump wouldn't know fact if it bit him on the butt.


I suspect that His Orangeness does recognize facts. It's that he consistently chooses to call them lies when they don't support his goals. He learned this lesson exceedingly well from the (eventually) disbarred attorney Roy Cohen. Cohen was widely known for his flagrant disdain for truth, for the law, and for paying his bills, and Trump chose him to be his attorney and mentor. So I think he is aware of the facts, but truth holds no moral weight, no value, for him. He is an amoral pragmatist. If the truth is useful to him.....then fine. But if it isn't....then he insists it's a lie.

It's seen as a populist strategy. And these populist politicians lead their unquestioning followers down their fabricated path.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Fact Checking Biden
Date: 03/08/2024 8:04 PM
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I heard that Trump was going to be "fact checking" Biden's SOTU in real time on his Truth Social app. I won't bother to look it up, but I assume it was a non-stop litany of falsehoods.

He threw a tantrum, sounding like a spoiled 2 year-old. The usual.

And, of course, full of blatant lies.
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