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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Investment Strategies / Mechanical Investing
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Author: mungofitch ✹✺ SILVER
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Subject: Re: in the money call buys
Date: 03/14/24 2:11 PM
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Leverage giveth, and leverage taketh away. You lose a lot of money very rapidly if the stock goes down instead of up.

So it's a very profitable approach sometimes, but only if you can identify stocks that you are really darned sure will be higher in price a couple/few years down the road. Since that is usually based on an assessment of value and its trajectory, it has to be a stock for which you feel you have a pretty good handle on how to value it. I generally assume that I might have to wait up to four years for a value thesis to work out...two rounds of two-year calls. If you're goign to use a strategy that might take that long, you should make sure you have the personality required for that kind of trade. You might look like a stubborn idiot for three of those four years, which is fine, as long as you don't panic and sell before the investment works out.

Buying puts for protection is a fairly expensive way to get around a lack of certainty...you are losing time value on the calls you're buying, and you're losing time value on the puts you're buying.

A whole lot of good stocks are quite richly priced at the moment, or at least more richly than usual. I have some in the money calls against Hershey, which I think will do nicely if the current rough patch for their business ends and their usual valuation range is seen again. I like DG too, though I seem to be pretty much alone in that regard : ) ---see comments above about having to wait a few years sometimes.

Jim
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