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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 9:18 AM
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Just saw an interview Myron Lizer, former Vice President, Navajo nation where the above statistic was covered and the reasons why were discussed.

64% is quite high. I doubt the liberals will dare to include Native Americans in their whining about uneducated voters making ignorant decisions.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 12:06 PM
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I doubt the liberals will dare to include Native Americans in their whining about uneducated voters making ignorant decisions.

Why? You do realize that poverty is rampant on the res, yes? Most of them don't have an education because they can't afford it. So that line of argument seems DOA. I hadn't heard that statistic, and don't know what's behind it. So I can't comment on their specific reasons. But most of them are not well-educated, and desperately poor. To our shame (since the feds are marginally responsible for them through the BIA).
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 12:34 PM
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But most of them are not well-educated, and desperately poor. To our shame (since the feds are marginally responsible for them through the BIA). - 1pg

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The bottom line from that Navajo Nation Vice President is that with new administration, now is the time to become much more engaged politically, seek some representation in the Trump Admin, and finally address some of these long standing issues. His message was directed at the native Americans to stop passively waiting for Washington to effectively address these conditions, and get involved beyond the ballot box.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 1:06 PM
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Assuming your synopsis is accurate, then it wouldn't matter. They should seek some representation from any administration, and lobby for address of their issues. Didn't have to be the convict. In fact, I suspect they'll get less motion from the convict than they would have from Harris. If the convict could deport them, he probably would.

I do agree they need to stop passively waiting. But, again, that would apply to any administration in power. Not convict-specific. And, while it is a bit more complicated than I'm about to say, they are semi-autonomous nations. They have their own government, their own police force, etc. That government should be addressing their problems as a first measure, and lobbying DC when appropriate. BIA has a somewhat mixed track record, but they can apply pressure to any administration just as a state governor could (more or less).

I was mildly curious, and googled-up a native woman (with position in the Navajo nation) giving her reasons for support. They amounted to "shared ideals", which was anti-abortion, and other conservative social issues (she didn't mention gay/trans, but I'm sure she's "anti", given what I read).
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 1:37 PM
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Poor Natives.

One of the many victims in the world that were raped and pillaged by ----- the usual suspect: Europe.

Natives should learn Arabic, see me for frequent flyer points and travel to Yemen and then Paris.


For ethnic food tasting, of course.
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 3:23 PM
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His message was directed at the native Americans to stop passively waiting for Washington to effectively address these conditions, and get involved beyond the ballot box.

I look forward to the tribal governments engaging with the Trump administration. If past is prologue, I doubt seriously that the Trump administration will take the first, or even second step in that engagement.

But we’ll all have a front row seat to how that engagement goes.

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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 3:26 PM
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I was mildly curious, and googled-up a native woman (with position in the Navajo nation) giving her reasons for support.

Eligible voters on the Navajo Nation – which also overlaps with New Mexico and Utah – alone number around 67,000. Precincts within the reservation ranged from 60-90% for Biden, per High Country News.

We live next door to the Navajo Nation and drive through there 2 to 4 times a year. When we drove through in 2020, there were Biden signs EVERYWHERE; the Trump signs could be counted on one hand and were mostly in the vicinity of one or the other of the GD missionary churches.

Don't know what happened this year.

Latino vote went way up for Trump this year, too.
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Author: weatherman   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/09/2024 10:48 PM
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am certain MAGA was more likely a ~ millenium ago than under trump.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/07/71/86/0771864e31df905...

the undereducated poor have no capability or interest in holding the gop accountable as their deterioration accelerates. they will be ever busier surviving, despite some propaganda here & there.
(re: native americans...imagine your land, water & air quality, povertyline income...all at the behest of trumps' future dept. of interior)
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: 64% Percent Native Americans vote for Trump
Date: 11/10/2024 1:18 PM
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(re: native americans...imagine your land, water & air quality, povertyline income...all at the behest of trumps' future dept. of interior)

Oh yeah...how soon they forget that the Dakota pipeline was rammed through by the convict. Obama had the Corps of Engineers doing assessments, and trying to reach terms agreeable to the natives. The convict put a stop to that, and green-lighted the project. End of discussion, in essence. There's no reason to expect he'll show any more consideration for their desires in the future.
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