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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
Number: of 48543 
Subject: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 1:09 PM
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Yup. Nothing to see here:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/brother-suspec...

Laken Hope Riley, 22, who was studying nursing at Augusta University, went out for a run Thursday morning. After a friend told police she had not returned, officers immediately began a search and found her body on the University of Georgia campus in a forested area near Lake Herrick that includes trails popular with runners and walkers.

https://twitter.com/BillMelugin_/status/1761407972...

NEW: Per three ICE & DHS sources to me &
@GriffJenkins
, Jose Antonio Ibarra, the suspect charged in the murder of nursing student Laken Riley, is a Venezuelan national who crossed illegally into El Paso, TX in September 2022 & was released into the U.S. via parole.
We reached out to ICE for an official statement confirming these details yesterday - and they are telling us today they “do not have any comment”.
Additionally, yesterday, DOJ charged Ibarra’s brother, also an illegal alien from Venezuela, with having a fake/fraudulent green card.


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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 2:14 PM
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Dope1: Yup. Nothing to see here: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/brother-suspec...

Laken Hope Riley...


Let it never be said that republicans don't exploit the tragic murder of a young woman with lightning speed. I don't think I've seen a single congressional republican's Twitter account that didn't politicize her murder despite no official word on the suspect's immigration status.

And none of the congressional republicans has mentioned that the suspect charged with Ms. Riley's murder was processed for expedited removal but claimed a credible fear of return to Venezuela. He was consequently released from immigration custody pending a ruling on his asylum claim on April 30.

And none of the congressional republicans has mentioned that House Speaker Moses Johnson refused to bring a bipartisan immigration bill to the floor that would speed asylum claim reviews and enable faster processing of expedited removal cases.

And none of the congressional republicans has mentioned a single one of the other 12 or so women who are murdered in the United States every day, or the mysterious death of Nex Benedict.

No political ground to be gained there, though.


https://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-news/uga-murder-s...
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Author: sano 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48543 
Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 2:15 PM
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GA killer was paroled into country

Murdered white females vastly more press coverage.... and if the perp is an immigrant that's much more press-worthy than murder by good American folks.


You know what isn't front page on Fox News; the conviction and sentencing of these murderers. <"Second transgender woman of color shot to death in SC in 15 days
Aug 8, 2019 Updated Nov 20, 2020 "


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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 3:39 PM
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He was consequently released from immigration custody pending a ruling on his asylum claim on April 30.

Thanks for confirming that Joe Biden's policies are resulting in him releasing criminals directly into the country.

A policy that you seem to be quite comfortable with. Else you would have spoken up against it..but you haven't.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 3:53 PM
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Because it's not Biden's policy. It's the law. Unless you fund detention centers, there is no alternative. Biden or Trump or DeSantis or Christie...doesn't matter. They have to abide by the law, whether they like it or not.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 5:05 PM
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Because it's not Biden's policy. It's the law.

No, detaining them is the law. Biden doesn't have to do that, but he is.

Therefore, it's his policy.
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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 5:15 PM
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No, detaining them is the law. Biden doesn't have to do that, but he is.

Therefore, it's his policy.


Does the federal government have the facilities to detain them? Does it have the appropriated budget from Congress to build and operate sufficient detention facilities to keep them all in detention?
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 5:26 PM
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Does the federal government have the facilities to detain them? Does it have the appropriated budget from Congress to build and operate sufficient detention facilities to keep them all in detention?

You guys are attempting to set up a chicken/egg scenario whereby you absolve Joe Biden of any responsibility for the border crisis.

Won't work. The reason why it won't work is that none other than Joe Biden himself said that everything was fine and dandy down south for teh first 3 years of his presidency. Now that polling data is showing him being punished over the issue, all of a sudden it's a crisis and Congress Needs To Do Something.

Much like Obama was able to erect temporary facilities for families running the border, Biden could have as well. Biden instead went the opposite direction and cancelled 287(g) programs:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/president...

Sec. 2. Contracts with Privately Operated Criminal Detention Facilities. The Attorney General shall not renew Department of Justice contracts with privately operated criminal detention facilities, as consistent with applicable law.



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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 5:37 PM
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You guys are attempting to set up a chicken/egg scenario whereby you absolve Joe Biden of any responsibility for the border crisis.

Won't work. The reason why it won't work is that none other than Joe Biden himself said that everything was fine and dandy down south for the first 3 years of his presidency.


Not at all. If you want to criticize Joe Biden for not acknowledging some time in late 2021 or early 2022 that we didn't have the infrastructure necessary to process the increased flow of asylees, I will share in that criticism. Much as the Administration did with inflation rates, their position was to assume - and then act as if - the condition was "transitory." They asserted that the increase was only a short-term phenomenon resulting from pent-up migrants who had been hindered by Covid quarantines up and down Central America, and that the wave would be short-lived.

They were wrong. And because they were wrong, they weren't prioritizing getting Congress to change the appropriations and the laws governing asylum seekers.

But recognizing that fact doesn't mean that Biden caused the problems at the border. Or that it's a situation that rests entirely, or even primarily, with the Administration. For years, we have a mismatch between what the immigration enforcement system is set up to do (return Mexican nationals immediately back over the border) and what it needs to do now (process non-Mexican asylum claims).

Biden blew the politics of the issue, but it was always something that squarely lands on Congress to fix (which is why Trump couldn't fix it either in 2018 and 2019, before Covid hit).
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 5:50 PM
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Fund the detention centers (again, Congress controls that). Build and fund them. Then we'll talk about detention.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 5:58 PM
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But recognizing that fact doesn't mean that Biden caused the problems at the border.

Hmm...except for the fact that Joe Robinette Biden campaigned on welcoming immigrants through the front door...and rather loudly announced he was reversing every Trump-era policy that he could. Which he did, btw.

Or that it's a situation that rests entirely, or even primarily, with the Administration. For years, we have a mismatch between what the immigration enforcement system is set up to do (return Mexican nationals immediately back over the border) and what it needs to do now (process non-Mexican asylum claims).

Here's where I'll throw you a bone: No, Biden isn't at fault for the entire mess along the border - this has been a festering issue since Reagan. We've refused to fund real security along the southern border, we've refused to crack down on coyotes and drug runners, we've refused to go after employers who knowingly hire people who are ineligible to work and we still have states who pass things like this:

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/21/1188258994/overtime...

(WA state passed a law mandating a 40 hour workweek. But temporary agricultural workers want to work a million hours, get paid, then go home).

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Author: albaby1 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 6:22 PM
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Hmm...except for the fact that Joe Robinette Biden campaigned on welcoming immigrants through the front door...and rather loudly announced he was reversing every Trump-era policy that he could. Which he did, btw.

But the increase in asylum backlogs increased well before he ever took office. The real uptick started late in the Obama Administration, and continued unchecked through the Trump Administration:

https://trac.syr.edu/reports/705/

Biden certainly had very different rhetoric than Trump - but Trump's policies were largely ineffective at slowing the increase in asylees entering the country. Many of his policies were struck down before being implemented, he never built much "wall," and only the Covid pandemic did anything to (temporarily) slow down migration flows everywhere globally. There's no evidence that any of this is the result of Biden's campaign rhetoric.

No, Biden isn't at fault for the entire mess along the border - this has been a festering issue since Reagan. We've refused to fund real security along the southern border, we've refused to crack down on coyotes and drug runners, we've refused to go after employers who knowingly hire people who are ineligible to work and we still have states who pass things like this:

Perhaps - but I think it's a problem if we don't recognize that the current situation also involves something new. This isn't a festering, Reagan-era problem. Asylum requests (both affirmative and defensive) used to be a much smaller proportion of the migrant population. The "border issue" of 1980's through about 2016 was one of mostly Mexican nationals entering the country for avowedly economic reasons - so you could use the expedited removal process authorized by Clinton to just send them back over the border. So if you caught them, you didn't need to worry about giving them an asylum hearing or detaining them for any length of time. But you can't use expedited removal for non-Mexican asylees - which means you have to have a system that can process them timely.

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 8:07 PM
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Fund the detention centers (again, Congress controls that). Build and fund them. Then we'll talk about detention. - 1pg

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Right now the states and cities are bearing the cost of catch and release, not just in dollars to house, etc, but also the crime that comes with free ranging foreigners.

It would be much cheaper overall to build massive detention facilities and hold them near the POE for as long as it takes. The problem is the costs are presently hidden throughout 50 state budgets and thousands of city budgets. Texas alone has spent $10B on immigration related matters over the last five years. We should have built detention facilities instead.

Suggested funding source: Clawback the billions in unspent Covid Relief funding and use that to build the facilities. With Covid being behind us, any unspent funds are slowly bleeding off into other programs.





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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/26/2024 10:51 PM
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BMH:It would be much cheaper overall to build massive detention facilities and hold them near the POE for as long as it takes.

SNIP The federal budget for fiscal year 2023 still provides ICE with $1.4 billion for a total of 25,000 detention beds. This spending is a waste. It should be invested instead in building a federal system of universal representation for immigration courts, similar to the public defender system used in criminal courts.Jul 20, 2022SNIP

https://www.vera.org/news/ice-is-wasting-millions-...

SNIP According to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) at Syracuse University, by late 2022, there were 1,565,966 people waiting for their asylum cases to be heard.Jan 23, 2024 SNIP

https://immigrationforum.org/article/explainer-asy...

1,400,000,000 /25,000 = $ 56,000 ; 56,000 x 1,565,966 = $ 87,694,096,000 or 87.7 billion for 1 year

Just think, in around 12-13 years we could spend a trillion dollars.

I think I would rather build the administrative system to have a final decision ~ 6 months.
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/27/2024 2:34 AM
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Whatever your funding source is, Congress still has to do it. That's the real issue. Congress won't do anything. The Senate tried to reach a deal, and then Trump said "no" because he wanted a campaign issue. So now, with no funding, if the entire population of planet Earth showed up to claim asylum, we'd have to get the court dates and let them go until they receive their hearings. (OK...some wouldn't pass the initial interview, but you get my point, I'm sure.)

And now there isn't likely to be action for years. Probably decades.
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/27/2024 8:31 AM
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Republicans whine endlessly about immigration policy while simultaneously tanking bipartisan legislation designed to deal with immigration.

Trump says, "the Senate is better off not making a deal, even if it means the country will close up for a while."

"The border is a very important issue for Donald Trump, and the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that
he doesn’t want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Joe Biden for it is really appalling." ~Mitt Romney

Trumps open border is endangering Americans.

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: GA killer was paroled into country
Date: 02/27/2024 8:42 AM
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Trumps open border is endangering Americans. - vsg

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