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Author: sutton   😊 😞
Number: of 15071 
Subject: Billions in damages
Date: 03/07/2024 10:37 AM
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"A jury in Oregon has ordered PacifiCorp to pay more than $42 million to 10 victims of devastating wildfires on Labor Day 2020 — the latest verdict in litigation that is expected to see the electric utility on the hook for billions in damages."

https://www.kezi.com/news/pacificorp-ordered-to-pa...

-- sutton
whose front gate was around a hundred meters outside the mandatory evacuation zone
and who has had a substantial chunk of his net worth in BRK since 2000
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Author: Oscar255414   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Billions in damages
Date: 03/07/2024 10:49 AM
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Isn't the issue whether BRk Energy can recover those costs by increasing their utility rates? Or is it just understood that those are not acceptable "costs" to be recovered? The next issue is whether BRK Energy can get an acceptable return on the billions of dollars it's going to take to harden their infrastructure?
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Author: DTB   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Billions in damages
Date: 03/07/2024 10:50 AM
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From the Oregon NBC news report (Kezi News):

Omaha, Nebraska-based Berkshire Hathaway estimates that its utilities face at least $8 billion in claims across all the wildfire lawsuits already filed in Oregon and California, although the damages could be doubled or even tripled in some of those cases and some of the lawsuits don’t list a dollar amount.
https://www.kezi.com/news/pacificorp-ordered-to-pa...

$8b plus is a lot of claims, although they won't all go against Berkshire and the final amount may be a lot less if their appeals are successful or it they come to an out of court settlement. From the same news report:

PacifiCorp, a unit of Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, is appealing. The utility said in an email Tuesday it has settled hundreds of claims relating to the fires and “remains committed to settling all reasonable claims for actual damages under Oregon law.”


Bad as it is, I think the more worrying aspect of this is that the regulatory environment seems to have changed in a very unfavourable way for Berkshire. If they end up paying out a few billion for the 2020 fires, that's not such a big deal for Berkshire, but if the environment is such that they no longer want to invest a lot of new capital in the utilities, that is a bigger problem, and it is not obvious to me how Berkshire can solve it.

Perhaps there is a technical fix, cutting off power more quickly when there is any hint of a problem - why wouldn't they do that, anyway? But I don't have enough understanding of the feasibility of switching off the power quickly nor the pros and cons of doing that to answer that question.

dtb

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Author: oddhack   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Billions in damages
Date: 03/07/2024 11:02 AM
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If they end up paying out a few billion for the 2020 fires, that's not such a big deal for Berkshire, but if the environment is such that they no longer want to invest a lot of new capital in the utilities, that is a bigger problem, and it is not obvious to me how Berkshire can solve it.

Perhaps they should consider reinsuring climate change risk, should they find a willing broker.

I feel little sympathy for any power company (particularly PG&E since I suffer their behavior directly). Trying to cut corners on safety costs some people their lives, not just their homes. If that affects Berkshire's valuation, or causes Berkshire to exit the industry, so be it.

Looking forward to home solar + storage when my situation allows.
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Author: unquarked   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Billions in damages
Date: 03/07/2024 12:45 PM
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Might the nationwide exponentially growing demand for energy offset the limitations of antiquated systems? Here's a WaPo article that describes the exploding demand for more energy even as utilities are being punished for outdated transmission capabilities. Seems like something has to give.

https://wapo.st/3IqeK6P

Vast swaths of the United States are at risk of running short of power as electricity-hungry data centers and clean-technology factories proliferate around the country, leaving utilities and regulators grasping for credible plans to expand the nation’s creaking power grid.

Tom

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