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The week's question
In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Investment Strategies / Manlobbi's Descent
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Author: weatherman ✹  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Google cloud contributes to IV10/price
Date: 07/31/25 10:23 PM
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well argued bear case:
google is becoming capital heavy w/cloud+AI buildout.
quality of earnings unambiguous worse than decade ago..

"...today. Google made net income of roughly $100b in 2024. FCF was ~$73b. When you remove stock-based compensation of $23b, the economic profits of the business were $50b.
This is half of what they are showing in accounting profits. In other words, this makes the business look much cheaper than it really is.
Again, this is the difference between depreciation charges tied to their capital investment, primarily in AI, versus the actual cash costs of capex in 2024. Why do we think it is so dangerous? It’s the same thing the oil companies did during the 2010s..."
smead, jul 2025
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