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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 7:00 AM
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charts BUT, I don't know how to share it OR run the charts with divs reinvested. Thank you to whoever helps the elderly who are tech challenged !!
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Author: nola622   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 8:37 AM
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Try this link and pull that slider at the bottom that says "200 Days" to the left to change it to any time period you would like. This should be VIG with dividends reinvested if I have it straight. Apologies if I don't have it straight.

https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?VIG,BR...
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 8:44 AM
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charts BUT, I don't know how to share it OR run the charts with divs reinvested. Thank you to whoever helps the elderly who are tech challenged !!

Stockcharts is handy for that.
By default, their charts include reinvested dividends--they are total returns.
For example, the last three years of Exxon.
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=XOM&p=D&yr=3&mn=...

If you put "_" in front of the ticker, it gives you the price only graph.
Again, Exxon.
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=_XOM&p=D&yr=3&mn...

They also let you graph the RATIO of two stocks.
It's a good test of the dividend inclusion: the ratio of Exxon with dividends to Exxon without. Basically, a graph of the dividends.
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=XOM%3A_XOM&p=D&y...


Jim
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 8:47 AM
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thanks for trying Nola, I guess I need more help than that. Do you agree spy is no longer the correct hurdle ? Thanks.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 9:21 AM
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Thanks Jim but I still can't do a 5 and 10 year chart of brkb, spy, and vig with divs reinvested? HELP!!
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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 9:34 AM
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This is a graph of the ratio of VIG total return to SPY total return in the last five years. Is that what you needed?
A horizontal line would mean they had the same returns.

https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=VIG%3ASPY&p=D&yr...


It's probably more important to consider what happens in the "typical" period for dividend payers rather than in a specific period. I mention this because there was a very unusual stretch that dividend payers did particularly badly. For example, from Jan 2017 to Jan 2021, an equally weighted portfolio from selected S&P 500 stocks, figures not annualized:

All 500: total return +71%
Highest yielding half of dividend payers: total return +28%
Those with no dividends: +165%.

Note, the "bonus" returns for non-dividend-payers isn't because of a new era of tech or the Magnificent Seven: it's an equally weighted portfolio of many stocks in quite a few sectors.

I noticed this effect because the MI board noticed that our long time favourite screen completely stopped working for a few years, and it got metaphorically tossed on the trash heap. But it sought out high dividend payers, and ALL high dividend payers did badly for a long stretch. It was picking from a barrel stuffed with bad apples. The old screen has done wonderfully since the pandemic.

Anyway, VIG (like anything seeking dividends) will have the occasional stretch that is very atypical. Watch out for that.

Jim
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Author: rayvt 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 11:46 AM
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I still can't do a 5 and 10 year chart of brkb, spy, and vig with divs reinvested? HELP!!

I find that PORTFOLIO VISUALIZER is a useful tool for viewing things.

Is this what you are looking for? Easy-peasy
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portf...


Darn, it used to show the full link with all the parameters. Now it shows a shortcut which has the "log scale" box unchecked.

Change the start & end dates as desired.


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Another but much harder way is to go to finance.yahoo.com and download historical data, then copy the "adjusted close" fields into a spreadsheet, then make your graph.
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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: brkb vs vig, I looked at 5 and 10 year
Date: 02/29/2024 12:17 PM
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I still can't do a 5 and 10 year chart of brkb, spy, and vig with divs reinvested?

10 years
https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?SPY,BR...

5 years
https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?SPY,BR...

These are total return. Berkshire winning on both, FWIW.
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