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Think of the patriots who died during this latest "We're Israel's Bitch" adventure/

Think --- what --- did those young Americans die for?

If you dont' want to die for that ----don't enlist.

Totally agree.

If I were an impending high school grad, I'd cross off military service from my list of options. (And I enlisted right out of high school over 40 years ago. I got lucky, serving "in between wars", as it happens.) At this point in history, leadership is so dysfunctional that my life could be thrown away for nothing. Like creating an unnecessary dust-up with Iran, which is now remotely attacking random bases within their reach. Or kidnapping a foreign leader for no reason. And we have at least three more years of this MAGA lunacy (who knows what MAGA will do in 2028 if they win again).

Yeah. Don't throw away your life. Don't enlist until we get competent leadership that doesn't regard you as cannon fodder.

Or kidnapping a foreign leader for no reason.

Erm, okay.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1422326/dl

At various times since in or about 1999, Venezuelan officials, including NICOLAS
MADURO MOROS, DIOSDADO CABELLO RONDON, and RAMON RODRIGUEZ
CHACIN, the defendants, have partnered with narco-terrorists from the Fuerzas Armadas
Revolucionarias de Colombia ("F ARC"), Ejercito de Liberaci6n Nacional ("ELN"), the Sinaloa
Cartel, the Zetas, and Tren de Aragua ("TdA"), including TdA's leader, HECTOR
RUSTHENFORD GUERRERO FLORES, a/k/a "Nifio Guerrero," the defendant. In sum,
MADURO MOROS and his co-conspirators have, for decades, partnered with some of the most
violent and prolific drug traffickers and narco-terrorists in the world, and relied on corrupt officials
2
throughout the region, to distribute tons of cocaine to the United States.

No reason at all!

Don't throw away your life. Don't enlist until we get competent leadership that doesn't regard you as cannon fodder.

Or as steve would say- expendable meat

Or as steve would say- expendable meat

"expendable meat" = alleged JCs, especially their family members.

Erm, okay.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1422326/dl


And you believe anything coming out of this justice department?

Maduro’s a jackass and probably should be convicted for a number of crimes.

But this justice department has been showing itself as a criminal extension of Trump’s political grudges of late, and can’t be trusted to tell the truth about anything.

Justice Department indictments have been suffering rejection after rejection by federal judges of late.


Until there’s been a serious sweep of the Justice Department, with equally serious Nuremberg level prosecutions of prosecutors and staff who have acted illegally, the Justice Department cannot be trusted to tell the truth or carry out its essential mission.

And you believe anything coming out of this justice department?

:Rolleyes

The fact chain starts in 1999 and thus spans several justice departments.

This board is now 100% in la-la land. There are literally none of you who can be reasoned with at this point.

This board is now 100% in la-la land. There are literally none of you who can be reasoned with at this point.

Not trying to horn in on an ongoing conversation, but I just wanted to clarify that I hope you don't think any of us are actually asking you or Lurker Mom or Marco for information in these little banter sessions. Like ever.

Because you're idiots.

There are literally none of you who can be reasoned with at this point.

MAGA has no reason.

Not trying to horn in on an ongoing conversation, but I just wanted to clarify that I hope you don't think any of us are actually asking you or Lurker Mom or Marco for information in these little banter sessions. Like ever.

People like you serve a purpose. You do it well.

Maduro’s a jackass and probably should be convicted for a number of crimes.

No doubt. But it accomplished little else. The regime is still intact, and in control in that country. We risked some highly trained operators for a target that didn't really matter. If it had brought down the regime, that would be another matter. But it didn't, and it won't.

People like you serve a purpose. You do it well.

Read one of the left’s post, you’ve read them all->TDS—-one Trump bash after another.
Comedy hour before bedtime, fall asleep laughing.

And you believe anything coming out of this justice department?

:Rolleyes

The fact chain starts in 1999 and thus spans several justice departments.

It's not a fact chain. It's a diatribe from the current DOJ, which they will not be able to prove in court.

Even with competent leadership--- you might go to free Kuwait from Saddam and then have bases in Saudi Arabia and inspire bin Laden to send a gift to NYC.

You might get sent off to die for some Putin shit.

Or Taiwan(though I think Taiwan is gone, and America won't do squat---I said that on TMF long ago)

Or some other interventionist thing that one tribe will support and the other won't.

Don't enlist.


DRAFT.

Start with higher 401K balance families, and the most selective colleges and work from there.


The people who refuse to enlist? Go to Florida, hang out with Bibi's son.

Yeah. Don't throw away your life. Don't enlist until we get competent leadership that doesn't regard you as cannon fodder.


“AI Overview
U.S. military recruitment in fiscal year 2025 has seen a dramatic turnaround, with all service branches hitting or exceeding targets after years of deficits, achieving a 103% average mission completion rate, according to the U.S. Department of War (.gov). The Army surpassed its 61,000-soldier goal four months early, fueled by increased interest from women and pre-qualification prep courses, say NPR and Army.mil.”

Enlistment numbers were way down under president Biden’s WOKE sissy military.
Men and women couldn’t enlist fast enough when Donald Trump became president and selected
Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense.
A fact you cannot deny.

Even with competent leadership--- you might go to free Kuwait from Saddam and then have bases in Saudi Arabia and inspire bin Laden to send a gift to NYC.


All the meddling in the middle east is primarily (exclusively?) because of oil. We deposed a democratically elected leader because he wanted to nationalize his country's oil (Mosaddegh), and the Brits and us didn't like it (no profit for BP or Standard Oil, or whichever companies were involved in that). Long history, a lot of it being the tail end of colonial-style attitudes (e.g. Vietnam...formerly a French colony).

Service can be worthy. There are a lot of things that go on that we mostly don't hear about. Real threats. Many of them are of our own making (e.g. middle east terrorism provoked by decades of exploitation), and many not of our own making (e.g. middle east terrorism because one dude wrote a book about how immoral the West was after visiting the US in the -I think- 1950s).

There is a risk in any military service that during your time some incompetent boob with no regard for military personnel can be elected. But we have that right now, so it would be folly to enlist for the next three years. After that, we'll have to see.

The Army surpassed its 61,000-soldier goal four months early...

So? Irrelevant to the point being made.

So? Irrelevant to the point being made.

Is this the point you were trying to make”

Yeah. Don't throw away your life. Don't enlist until we get competent leadership that doesn't regard you as cannon fodder.

One does not enlist if they believe the CIC is incompetent. That was the reason why enlistment numbers were under water when 5x deferment Biden was president.

Different story with President Trump.

“In fiscal year 2025, the military's recruiting efforts returned to levels not seen in more than a decade.

"In 2025, the department exceeded our annual active-duty recruitment accession goals across all five services. ... Why? Because we have a commander in chief and a secretary of war who are focused on our troops and our mission, and on ensuring that we remain the most lethal fighting force on the planet," Undersecretary of War for Personnel and Readiness Anthony J. Tata said during a speech at a defense forum earlier this month.

"Our nation's young people are responding," he added.”

https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Arti...

Put away your Trump hate for a minute and face the fact our young people believe in President Trump and Pete Hegseth.

Put away your Trump hate for a minute and face the fact our young people believe in President Trump and Pete Hegseth.

Trump and Hegseth are human bowel blockages, and you and Dope and Marco and your ilk are their pathetic little turds.

All due respect.

One does not enlist if they believe the CIC is incompetent. That was the reason why enlistment numbers were under water when 5x deferment Biden was president.

Nope. The first sentence was my advice (and also Eschota, apparently). It's not a hard rule at all. Therefore your second sentence does not follow. It may be true (probably is), but you didn't provide any evidence that it was the CIC. Could have just as easily been because there were less hazardous options available to young people.

Put away your Trump hate for a minute and face the fact our young people believe in President Trump and Pete Hegseth.

Now THAT'S funny. The Felon lost the young demographic by a lot. If that was the only demographic that was counted, we'd have President Harris right now.

Trump and Hegseth are human bowel blockages, and you and Dope and Marco and your ilk are their pathetic little turds.

All due respect.

lol....I luv it when youse guys (street apple padre included) go off the deep with your
frustrations with President Trump. Thanks, I’ll be laughing all day.

lol....I luv it when youse guys (street apple padre included) go off the deep with your
frustrations with President Trump. Thanks, I’ll be laughing all day.

Of course you will piggy, because you’re smart like that! Your pedo idol is winning like nobody since Adolf and he’s got the popularity numbers to prove it!

Grab your vibrator and fire up some of those awesome White House AI murder porn posts. Just be careful not to accidentally hit the channel button when you get too giggly. It’s pretty grim tidings for Donny outside the doltosphere.

And whatever you do, don’t look outside on Saturday. Those are a few dozen million your fellow citizens, and they want you to know that you’re a tool.

Of course you will piggy, because you’re smart like that! Your pedo idol is winning like nobody since Adolf and he’s got the popularity numbers to prove it!

Another portly balding old fart posting and thinking I care about his silly childish reply.
Isn’t time you grew up and post like a man with a bit of intelligence?
LOL.

Put away your Trump hate for a minute and face the fact our young people believe in President Trump and Pete Hegseth.


That bit of delusional thinking is what being in a cult is all about.

That bit of delusional thinking is what being in a cult is all about.

As opposed to the cult you belong to....
Biden, Kamala and the has been wandering leaderless in the wilderness dem party..LOL.

Men and women couldn’t enlist fast enough when Donald Trump became president

Now they can be required to serve in combat outside the US AND denied the right to vote.

Bush Senior like him or not -- I dont think was an incompetent boob. (I voted Perot, I wasn't a Bush Sr supporter) --yet, Americans died for the Kuait adventure ---when our side hinted to Saddam we'd stay out of his Kuwait problem in the first place.

THEN the Shiites were told to rise against Saddam -- both Bush Senior and Bill Clinton (both not boobs)---let the Shites get pounded in the ass.


OH, "gulf war syndrome" -- Bush Sr and Bill Clinton did little. It was Senator Kay Hutchison. Ross Perot, and others who did.

Don't enlist.

Even if your Mufti is in power and then you think all is well - dont enlist.

Draft!

higher 401K families, and selective colleges first.

Or, stop being Israel's bitch.

Stop being Europe's bitch.

Stop picking and choosing who gets away with stuff and who doesn't.

If Republicans would pretend the world is Israel. and Dems would pretend the world is China, we'd pretty much let people do what they like ;)

Signed, a non tribal ---the 5% minority

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