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Author: Lapsody 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 48466 
Subject: The Decline of the USA
Date: 01/28/2024 1:55 AM
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Sad. We are looking at it, it seems. MAGA folk seem to be OK with it.



<snip>But an even deeper, broader shock wave would be triggered by the growing realization that the United States is not just an unreliable ally, but an unserious ally. A silly ally. Unlike the European Union, which collectively spends more money on Ukraine than Americans do but can’t yet produce as many weapons, the U.S. still has ammunition and weapons to send. Now Washington is on the verge of refusing to do so, but not because the White House has had a change of heart.

The looming end of American aid to Ukraine is not a policy decision. For two years, the Biden administration successfully led an international coalition to provide not soldiers but rather military aid to Ukraine. Officials convened regular meetings, consulted with allies, pulled in military support from around the world. Majorities in the U.S. continue to support Ukraine. Majorities in both houses of Congress do too. The Senate is said to have its legislation almost ready to go. But now, for reasons that outsiders find impossible to understand, a minority of Republican members of Congress, in a fit of political pique, are preparing to cut it all off. They might succeed.

Many different, bad choices led to this moment. Former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s decision last summer to cut Ukraine out of a larger budget bill was the first. The strange idea to link Ukraine aid to controversial changes to U.S. immigration law and border policy was the second. The ballots cast by voters in Iowa and New Hampshire then put Donald Trump on a seemingly unstoppable path to the Republican presidential nomination; Trump’s telephone calls to Republican senators, telling them to kill the Ukraine/border legislation, suddenly mattered. His motives are blatantly selfish: He wants the U.S.-Mexico border to remain chaotic so that he can use the issue in his campaign. He doesn’t want Biden to benefit from any perceived solution or progress. And he doesn’t care if Ukraine runs out of ammunition as a result.

To the outside world, none of the logic behind any of these decisions makes sense. All they can see is that the American political system has been hijacked and rendered dysfunctional by a radical, pro-Russian faction led by Trump—a disgraced ex-president who used violence and deceit to try to remain in office.

By abandoning Ukraine in a fit of political incompetence, Americans will consent to the deaths of more Ukrainians and the further destruction of the country. We will convince millions of Europeans that we are untrustworthy. We will send a message to Russia and China too, reinforcing their frequently stated belief that the U.S. is a degenerate, dying power. Less than a year ago, when Biden made his surprise trip to Kyiv, the U.S. projected confidence and unity as the leader of a functional alliance. Now, suddenly, we don’t.<snip>

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/01/...
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
Number: of 15062 
Subject: Re: The Decline of the USA
Date: 01/28/2024 9:28 PM
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Yes, MAGA has made us unreliable, and unserious; electing people like Trump and MTG, whom are -frankly- clowns.

You can't rely on clowns.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
Number: of 15062 
Subject: Re: The Decline of the USA
Date: 01/29/2024 9:28 AM
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Liberals long wanted decline.

The mere mention of superiority or exceptionalism used to annoy Liberals.

OK big deal so now you people like bombing brown people and you are to the Right of George W Bush on immigration and corporate taxation.

But you wanted the decline.

You got it.

Good news is - DESPITE you Liberals it won't be as bad as it could be....why? A few things:


1.)Capitalism and the Profit Motive.

It continues to yield creativity, optimization, efficiencies, innovations why? FOR PROFITS. So rich people can get richer. So "CEOs" get -paid zillions. And it kinda works out doesn't it.

2.)Religion and Population.

Until a few seconds ago, America was still somewhat traditional and religious. This meant marriage, this meant kids, this meant healthy robust demography. This means consumption. More labor. Vibrancy. This is UNLIKE your European heroes and even your Chinese heroes.

3.)Big Defense

Spending on it. The job and economic base. The not being threatened by attack.


4.)America and Americans are better than the rest of the world. Haha - it's true.


Guess what? All these saving graces - and aces - -are things the TMF Liberals were and are vocally against.

Be glad. America beat Progressives back to an extent. Luckily now your 401K Greed has made you Progressives in Name Only where you still want to destroy America's social fabric - but you've become Reagan, W, Trump on a bevy of other things.

Glad you are selling out.

"Murica!" will soon be heard at Starbucks. Who knew.
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
Number: of 15062 
Subject: Re: The Decline of the USA
Date: 01/29/2024 1:06 PM
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By golly I also forgot......

Abundance of natural resources, such as FOSSIL FUELS.

And despite your resistance, some of the grown ups on your own side have embraced DRILL BABY DRILL. Europeans, Indians, Chinese would love to have your oil....but they don't. Superior America DOES. And luckily, thus far, Anti American, and Anti American Standard of Living Progressives have been held back....
......by both parties but more the Bushie Trumpy side.


So in addition to being to the RIGHT OF GEORGE W BUSH on immigration and corporate taxes.

You are now Sarah Palin on the environment.

DRILL BABY DRILL.

Hey, can you Liberals see Russia from your house? You know, the enemy of America that you sided with until you decided ti dislike Putin?
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: The Decline of the USA
Date: 01/29/2024 1:12 PM
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TRUMP TAX PACKAGE.

How much has Biden officially changed it?


Yes- the economy is good.


BUSH TAX POLICY.

Did Obama really change it that much?


YEAH THE ECONOMY WAS GOOD.
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Hey Liberals - your pronouns are DITTOHEAD.
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