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- Manlobbi
Halls of Shrewd'm / US Policy
No. of Recommendations: 14
The "arty" deal was presented to Ukraine as a fait accompli, just like he did to the recognized government in Afghanistan.
Trump’s signals to Zelensky and Europe: Accept this plan or you’re on your own
US President Donald Trump said Friday that Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky would “have to like” the US plan, suggesting he is in no mood to negotiate, and saying he has until Thursday to accept.
If Kyiv were to lose US support, the consequences would be grave for its weapons supplies and access to intelligence, compounding existing crises: a lack of soldiers, a financial crunch and a deepening lack of confidence among Ukrainians in a presidency tainted by scandal.
Above all, rejecting the proposal would herald an existential separation from the US, with massive strategic implications for Ukraine and its European backers. https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/articles/trum...Reality check. Trump cut off funding for Ukraine months ago. Now, the US is simply profiteering off the war. Of the 31 M1 tanks provided by the US two years ago, it is estimated only 4 are still serviceable. Additional M1s are coming from Australia. F-16s have come from European powers.
With the Europeans paying the bills, more equipment is being bought from EU suppliers.
France to deliver eight SAMP/T air defense systems to Ukrainehttps://defence-blog.com/france-to-deliver-eight-s...Ukraine plans to buy up to 100 Rafale warplanes and air defense systems from Francehttps://apnews.com/article/france-ukraine-warplane...Ukraine gets in line for Swedish Gripen-E fighter jetshttps://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/10/...The article also moans and groans about loss of US intelligence. Turns out, the US is not the only source of intelligence in the world.
from the net sifter:
Yes, the UK, France, and Germany have significant satellite intelligence assets, separate from the US, including optical imaging, electronic intelligence, and communication satellites. France has a constellation of communication and electronic intelligence satellites (CERES), France is a leader in optical imaging with satellites like Helios and CSO, and Germany operates radar imaging systems. The UK has a constellation of communication satellites and is investing in its space surveillance capabilitiesNo war profits for US manufactures (and no kickbacks to Trump) means Trump takes the Nevil Chamberlain route of appeasing Putin, thinking that will win a Nobel. The "JCs" at the US manufacturers might pause for a moment, and consider that Lord Trump is showing that they are unreliable suppliers, due to his mood at the moment.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 3
According to Marco, we are in a civilizational clash with the Muslims and Ukraine is just a sideshow.
And in that civilizational clash, our natural ally is Russia, which alone carries the torch for christian civilization and values
You seem to be blind to all that sharia law that governs Dearborn, and all the rape gangs that roam its streets.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Steve!
No. of Recommendations: 7
And in that civilizational clash, our natural ally is Russia, which alone carries the torch for christian civilization and values
Trump priorities:
1-898918: himself
898919: "Bibi"
898920: Putin
Steve....HBTT
No. of Recommendations: 0
Steve,
No treaty of any kind is binding on the United States absent 2/3 Yes vote in the Senate.
As far as I know, the Senate hasn't voted.
So all Trump really has done is provide a Suggestion List to the parties in the Ukraine/Russian war.
Why does that get you so upset?
No. of Recommendations: 0
Wzambaloney,
Another lie. Where did I say Russia is an "ally" of the U.S.?
I didn't.
Like all ProGlibs, you're constantly either delusional, or lying, or both.
No. of Recommendations: 3
Another lie. Where did I say Russia is an "ally" of the U.S.?
You haven’t.
But you might as well have
No. of Recommendations: 2
So all Trump really has done is provide a Suggestion List to the parties in the Ukraine/Russian war.
Fait accompli, and if not accepted, we're out, and he's outlined it. Reread.
No. of Recommendations: 4
As far as I know, the Senate hasn't voted.
The Senate doesn't matter. His nibs can cut off ammo and spare parts supplies, and cut off the flow of intelligence, while blaming Ukraine. All Putin has to say is "no" to any proposed revisions, and Trump will blame Ukrainian intransigence. Most of us realize Trump cares not one whit for the lives of Ukrainian, or Russian, Proles. He wants a Nobel, and thinks the easiest way to get one is "ending the war" by forcing Ukraine to surrender. According to the net sifter, the practical cut off date for consideration for a Nobel is January 31, so Lord Trump is on a tight schedule to cram capitulation down Ukraine's throat.
I could almost make a case for Ukraine swapping the area it did not control, prior to the invasion, for NATO membership, but NATO membership is a no-go for Putin. Putin wants Ukraine laying nekked, so he can pull back, for a bit, to retrain and reequip, (and Lord Trump pockets a Nobel) then invade again and roll up more.
Meanwhile, the rest of the EU is taking note how the US is no longer a reliable partner, or equipment vendor.
Steve
No. of Recommendations: 2
Muslims are taking over major European cities right now. Don't see many Russian tanks though.
No. of Recommendations: 2
Trump priorities:
1-898918: himself
You should have stopped right there. That is truly all Trump cares about.
