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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 11:45 AM
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Trump calls on Republicans to scrap filibuster rule in shutdown standoff
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1d0qwx5z2vo
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-sh...

But Thune isn't buying it.
"Leader Thune's position on the importance of the legislative filibuster is unchanged"
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More recently, on Oct. 10, Thune said the filibuster has "been a bulwark against a lot of really bad things happening to the country."

Trump/Thune showdown? We know who will win that one.

Many Republicans fear that ending the filibuster could backfire if Democrats regain control of Congress.

Takes 51 votes to scrap the filibuster.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 12:04 PM
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It's a negotiating tactic.

Since the democrats have taken air travel, the military and SNAP recipients hostage, Trump is now taking his own hostage. He and Thune are playing the 2-man game where Thune says to Schumer, "If you don't deal reasonably with me, you get what the crazy Orange Man in the White House wants".

It's the same model that Nixon and Kissinger used to negotiate the Paris Peace Talks with the North Vietnamese, btw: every time NV blew off something that HK wanted Nixon would unleash another round of bombing. Got their attention right quick.
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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 12:20 PM
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Trump/Thune showdown? We know who will win that one.

Did Schumer ever reveal his "plan"?
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Author: EchotaSheeple   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 12:41 PM
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I hope it's just a tactic and I gotta hope a few Senators know better

It would be fun now.

But things change. Imagine a Progressive President, an AOC Senate Majority Leader, or even a role reversal of those two things.

And we dont have the filibuster.


I've always been against nuking the filibuster and still am.

Eventually, a Progressive Wave is going to hit us harder than we can dream of today.
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Author: AdrianC 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 12:57 PM
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But things change. Imagine a Progressive President, an AOC Senate Majority Leader, or even a role reversal of those two things.

Indivisible was calling for it back in 2021:

https://indivisible.org/resource/eliminating-filib...

Democrats control both chambers of Congress and the White House, but to pass progressive legislation, including democracy reforms, universal health care, climate change legislation, and immigration reforms, we need to abolish the filibuster. As the Senate’s rules exist today, Republicans in the Senate will still have the power to block every single progressive priority using a procedural tool called the filibuster, which requires at a minimum 60 votes to advance legislation.

It's simple: none of the progressive issues that Democratic candidates and congressional leaders are discussing today will become law unless we do something about the filibuster. If Mitch McConnell expects to be the Grim Reaper of progressive policies, the scythe he’ll use is the Senate filibuster. Unless we change the rules.


I'm guessing they're not wanting it gone now.
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Author: marco100   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 1:14 PM
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Despite what Trump said about it, I think Thune is absolutely right. The Dems got themselves into this mess, they overplayed a weak or non-existent hand. They need to take the full impact of whatever the political consequences might be.

Trump may simply be triangulating so he can say it's not his fault that the shutdown continued, since he advocated for breaking the filibuster rule. However, the rule has some very useful purposes--to force a consensus--and giving up on that while not perhaps immediately being a cave-in to the Dems, would set a very bad precedent.

The constituencies are getting restless and telling the Dems to pass the clean C.R. and the Dems are too arrogant to listen.

O.K.

Let some people on SNAP start feeling the actual pangs of hunger because of Schumer et al. The Republicans will play all those clips of Dem leaders saying they deliberately sought to leverage the common peoples' pain to extract political "leverage."

When all those 42 million people on social welfare for basic needs start to actually get hungry, maybe a good number of them will finally start to realize that socialism is no paradise. Dependence on the government equals being controlled by the government. When the socialists, socialist Democrats, Democrats, and Progressives decide you little people need to suffer so they can get political "leverage," you will be starved to death. Maybe then it will hit home for the recipients of these benefits that the socialist velvet glove has an iron fist in it. A lesson that many need to learn--including the voters of NYC.
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Subject: Re: Trump calls to scrap filibuster rule
Date: 10/31/25 2:00 PM
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marco100:The constituencies are getting restless and telling the Dems to pass the clean C.R. and the Dems are too arrogant to listen.

Umm, lessee now.

According to Associated Press–NORC Center for Public Affairs Research polling, about six in ten Americans said Trump and Republicans in Congress have “a great deal” or “quite a bit” of responsibility for the shutdown, while 54% said the same for Democrats in Congress.

A Reuters/Ipsos poll found 67% of adults say Republicans deserve a fair amount or a great deal of blame, 63% say Democrats deserve the same, and 63% say Trump does as well.

A Quinnipiac University poll found 45% blame Republicans in Congress, 39% blame Democrats in Congress; among independents, 48% blamed Republicans, 32% blamed Democrats.

In short, a plurality of Americans blame the Republicans for the shutdown.

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