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He told his campaign staff today that he is “in this race until the end.” NYT

Even though it is looking very likely he will lose to Trump.

A new poll from The New York Times and Siena College found that Trump has gained three points since the debate and now leads Biden by six points overall.

Even if you don't trust the polling, that's getting to be a pretty big gulf to try and bridge.

ges: A new poll from The New York Times and Siena College found that Trump has gained three points since the debate...

I'm going to call bullshit.

This poll has Trump winning 18-29 by 8 points, losing +65 by 4, and getting 15% of the African-American vote vs only 73% for Biden.

NFW.

This poll has Trump winning 18-29 by 8 points, losing +65 by 4, and getting 15% of the African-American vote vs only 73% for Biden.

That actually tracks with numerous other polls, showing “youngs” prefer Trump to Biden by a sizable gap, and “orders” prefer Biden. Also Men for Trump, Women for Biden. Nothing unusual there except for the slight movement, which is also not an anomaly. It’s quite ordinary for the polls to move in one direction or another following a widely televised debate.

So, way. Unfortunately.

Even though it is looking very likely he will lose to Trump.

There's four months until the election. That's a long time. A very long time.

Much too soon to call this one for Trump.

More importantly, Biden is not going to quit, so if you don't want Trump start working for that instead of whining that someone else (whom no one seems to be able to fully identify in any convincing way) might be better.

--Peter

>>ges: A new poll from The New York Times and Siena College found that Trump has gained three points since the debate...<<

I'm going to call bullshit. - CO

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C'mon CO, this is the fabled NYT we are talking about here. Your team constantly dismisses alternate views inby reminding us how highly the NYT is rated by Media Bias Fact Check. Skepticism is not permitted, let alone outright dismissal.

{{ More importantly, Biden is not going to quit, so if you don't want Trump start working for that instead of whining that someone else (whom no one seems to be able to fully identify in any convincing way) might be better. }}

I'm pretty sure that Democratic Governors and Members of Congress aren't going to forge a suicide pact with an enfeebled leader. If Biden can't provide clear medical evidence that Thursday's disaster was a one-off incident, they'll quickly start swimming away from the Titanic.

The best way to show that this was a one-off event would have been to go down to the press briefing room in the While House and hold a 2-hour, wide ranging press conference. The fact that that was not done, tells me he not up to it.

Very few people are fooled by this and a lot are angered by the three years of gaslighting on Biden's continually deteriorating cognitive state.

intercst

There's four months until the election. That's a long time. A very long time.

It’s actually a remarkably short time. People aren’t paying attention over the course of the summer. Conventions (as they are run now) are a long form informercial for the already interested) and the “election” doesn’t start until September. But with early voting now n so many states, it can be over in as little as 6 weeks.

Anyone in advertising will tell you that turning around a negative perception is an incredibly hard proposition, and Biden is fighting the “inflation” meme (wrongfully applied, in my view) and the “old” perception (correctly attributed, and reinforced supremely a week ago on live television in front of 50 million people.)

There are precious few other opportunities to change that perception, and frankly an 81 year old man who looks 81 and speaks slowly and shuffles as he walks is not likely to turn that perception around. No that may not be fair, it may not be right, but it is what is driving a significant number of votes here and (frankly, in my view) it is not going to change no matter what he does .

We have already given several hundreds of dollars to the Biden campaign, and Mrs. Goofy has decided there won’t be more - even though she loves him and supports him. She would rather send further donations to down ballot candidates in the hopes of protecting the Senate and/or House, because she, too, believes Joe has blown it. Or his staff has. Or somebody.

That “lack of enthusiasm” will be writ large over the next several months, and it is unfathomable to me how it might be turned around with a candidate with a fatal flaw as perceived by a large majority of the electorate. Loyalty is a wonderful thing, but winning the election is a vital thing, and you get to choose which is more important now.

Agree on both counts. There is a LOT of attack material on Trump going back almost a decade (or more). Plus, it should be easy to show he is not mentally fit either. Four months is a long time.

I don't want Trump. So whomever opposes him, that person has my vote. Or, ad absurdum, that half-eaten ham sandwich someone mentioned a few days ago. I'd vote for that before Trump. So I don't even have to follow the news on the election. My vote is against Trump, period. If the Reps had a "classic" Republican running, I might have to reconsider given what I'm hearing about Biden (e.g. Liz Cheney, John McCain of 25 years ago). But as long as it's Trump, there is no decision to be made as far as I'm concerned.

I don't want Trump. So whomever opposes him, that person has my vote.

Me too, 1pg, me too. Right there with ya.

intercst: I'm pretty sure that Democratic Governors and Members of Congress aren't going to forge a suicide pact with an enfeebled leader.

Umm.

Gov. Walz, Minnesota, tonight: President Biden has had our backs through covid, through all of the recovery, all the things that have happened. The governors have his back and we are working together just to make very, very clear on that.

Gov. Moore, Maryland, tonight: In November, we have a binary choice between someone who has continually delivered for us and someone whose vision for the future of this country is dangerous. I would tell people it is time to mount up. It it time to get serious.

Gov. Hochul, New York, tonight: I'm here to tell you today that President Joe Biden is in it to win it. All of us said we would pledge our support to him because the stakes could not be higher...

You trashed Hillary Clinton every day in 2016, bitter that Bernie lost the nomination. How'd that work out for ya'?

Moore is right: you have a binary choice. You support Biden or you support a rapist, a convicted felon who fell asleep every single day in court and just today was caught on video praising Putin and Xi as it was also revealed that the "random" supporter at an Atlanta Chick-fil-A is a paid Republican operative who was also present at Trump’s staged appearance at an Atlanta Barbershop.

Agree on both counts. There is a LOT of attack material on Trump going back almost a decade (or more). Plus, it should be easy to show he is not mentally fit either. Four months is a long time.

I believe Democrats have been making that case for more than 8 years now. What makes you think that the next 4 months are going to change minds of those who haven’t already been convinced?

Gov. Walz, Minnesota, tonight: President Biden has had our backs through covid, through all of the recovery, all the things that have happened. The governors have his back and we are working together just to make very, very clear on that.

Gov. Moore, Maryland, tonight: In November, we have a binary choice between someone who has continually delivered for us and someone whose vision for the future of this country is dangerous. I would tell people it is time to mount up. It it time to get serious.

Yeah, but that’s not how elections work. You already have the “committed” vote. Now tell me how Joe is going to win over the people who think he’s too old (73% of the country). Tell me how he’s going to bring the youth vote in (Trump now leads that segment by over 10%). Tell me how he’s gong to turn around the electorate because as of this moment he’s behind by *double* the margin of error in national polls.

Your loyalty is admirable. It is also, unfortunately, self defeating. This is politics, not high school.

What makes you think that the next 4 months are going to change minds of those who haven’t already been convinced?

As is always the case, it is the swing/independent voters that will decide the outcome. The Dems need to make them more afraid of a Trump presidency than a Biden presidency. It worked in 2020, and it should work again. They have a lot more ammo this time (e.g. adjudicated rape, 34 felony convictions, plus all the crap Trump keeps saying).

We have already given several hundreds of dollars to the Biden campaign, and Mrs. Goofy has decided there won’t be more - even though she loves him and supports him. She would rather send further donations to down ballot candidates in the hopes of protecting the Senate and/or House

I've donated more to Biden this year than I've ever donated to a campaign before. Now, like you, I'm donating to down ballot races that I hope will help Dems keep the Senate or gain the House. Even there I worry that a poor turnout for Biden will hurt those other races.

Loyalty is a wonderful thing, but winning the election is a vital thing, and you get to choose which is more important now.

That isn't the picture that's been painted. The picture is Biden will lose, and any other candidate will lose, so Trump becomes President and now has extra USSC protection, plus Jack Smith loses 3 of 4 charges, T can be King and by the time we get the new charges decided hell be senile or dead, so we are royally screwed.

Happ Independence Day though. 🧨✨

God says, "WASHINGTON D.C. - President Joe Biden took to the podium today to address the elephant in the room—his age.

“Sure, I’m old,” Biden began, drawing a chuckle from the gathered press. “But let’s put things in perspective here. At least I’m not a criminal and completely batshit insane.”

The comment drew a mix of laughter and applause, a moment of levity in an otherwise tense political climate. Biden’s remark was a clear reference to former President Donald Trump, who, despite being only a few years younger, has been convicted of 34 felonies and is, by any reasonable measure, a raving lunatic.

Biden continued, “Look, I know people are concerned about my age. But the main thing to remember is he’s a convicted felon and clearly out of his goddamn mind.”

The President’s remarks come at a time when the media and public discourse have been heavily focused on the age of the nation’s leaders. Biden, at 81, is the oldest sitting president in U.S. history, a fact that has not gone unnoticed by critics and pundits alike.

Biden leaned in and let loose. “Let’s be real here. I may be old, but at least I’m not stark raving mad. I’m not out here spouting bullshit conspiracy theories or committing crimes left and right. I’m just trying to do my damn job and keep this country from falling apart.”

Despite numerous hit pieces from the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and The Washington Post attacking his age, President Biden’s message was clear: sanity and a clean legal slate should count for something.

“Again, I may be old,” Biden concluded, “but have you seen the other guy? He’s a convicted felon and he’s clearly fucking batshit insane. Batshit! You’re gonna let him control the nukes? What are you, fucking nuts?”

As the nation continues to navigate its complex political landscape, one thing is certain: absolutely no one should vote for Donald Trump unless they don’t care about things like integrity and sanity."

If God wrote it, it must be true.
Bang.

1pg: The Dems need to make them more afraid of a Trump presidency than a Biden presidency. It worked in 2020, and it should work again.

We will get a lot of help in a few months from Representative Jared Huffman who represents California’s Second Congressional District, and who is the founder of the Stop Project 2025 Task Force on Capitol Hill.

Joyce [Vance]: What can we expect to see happen next?

Congressman Huffman: For the next eight weeks or so, you’ll see more and more members of Congress talking about Project 2025, informed by our briefings and the messaging materials we’re developing. I’m already doing tons of interviews, podcasts, and Zoom appearances. At the end of July, I’m looking forward to joining you, Rep. Jamie Raskin, and Rep. Ayanna Pressley for an online event with several Democratic groups that will include thousands of activists from all over the country. Other Task Force members are stepping up with similar events, including cable TV and other media appearances. So are the outside groups we’re partnering with. There’s already been an uptick in media coverage and a groundswell of interest at the grassroots level because of the rollout of our Task Force, and I expect that to intensify in the weeks ahead. All of that sets up nicely for our big public hearing-style event in September, which we hope will get widespread coverage and help put Project 2025 squarely into the national conversation in the critical days before the election.

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