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- Manlobbi
Halls of Shrewd'm / Atheist Shrewds
No. of Recommendations: 7
British singer/songwriter. I first came across him on a British podcast I listen to called What I Believe.
Saw him in concert last night and thought y'all might appreciate one song he and his band sang:
Frank Turner - Glory Hallelujah (with lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjrN7ZGyd7E&list=R...Lyrics
https://frank-turner.com/tracks/glory-hallelujah/Brothers and sisters, have you heard the news?
The storm has lifted and there's nothing to lose,
So swap your confirmation for your dancing shoes,
Because there never was no God.
Step out of the darkness and onto the streets,
Forget about the fast, let's have a carnival feast,
Raise up your lowered head to hear the liberation beat,
Because there never was no God.
There is no God,
So clap your hands together,
There is no God,
No heaven and no hell.
There is no God,
We're all in this together.
There is no God,
So ring that victory bell.
No cowering in the dark before some overbearing priest,
Not waiting until we die until we restitute the meek,
No blaming all our failings on imaginary beasts,
Because there never was no God.
No fighting over land your distant fathers told you of,
No spilling blood for those who never spread a drop of love,
No finger pointing justified by phantoms up above,
Because there never was no God.
And I know you're scared of dying man, and I am too,
But just pretending it's not happening isn't going to see us through.
If we accept that there's an end game and we haven't got much time,
Then in the here and now we can try and do things right.
We'd be our own Salvation Army, and together we'd believe
In all the wondrous things that mere mortals can achieve.
Because I've known beauty in the stillness of cathedrals in the day,
I've sung "Glory Hallelujah! Won't you wash my sins away?"
But now I'm singing my refrain, and this is what I say,
I say there never was no God.Here's another good one:
Frank Turner - Make America Great Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KuFU0rWFfk&list=R...
No. of Recommendations: 3
And Steve Martin said "Atheists have no songs". :-)
But a point of grammar here: I say there never was no God.
The double negative means there is a god.
No. of Recommendations: 2
But a point of grammar here: I say there never was no God.
The double negative means there is a god.
Song lyrics, 1pg. They're allowed a bit of poetic license.
Maybe concentrate on the chorus:
There is no God,
So clap your hands together,
There is no God,
No heaven and no hell.
There is no God,
We're all in this together.
There is no God,
So ring that victory bell.
By the way, this was sung in a concert venue downtown Cincinnati, across the river from the Bible Belt. The crowd was extremely enthusiastic. Frank Turner does a great job getting audience participation. I notice the set list from Michigan and Cleveland did not have this song.
No. of Recommendations: 9
The double negative means there is a god.
I caught that too.
Still, the song lyrics capture the important message. It's the "religions" taught in the name of god that cause the problems. The attempts to use "god" to control and dominate lives.
The creation of "gods" or even "one god" seems to me to be an evolutionary creation of mankind's wish to control things. And it seems to occur across all groups - however distant. We all know of the major gods created - all the major religions have one or more of them. But go to the most separated groups - the still existing hunter-gather groups of which there are a surprising number. And they will also have "gods". With no interactions with other groups or the bulk of humankind. It's a consistent happening.
To me, as stated earlier, these derive from mankind's needs to control things. And, as consciousness emerged - see Sapiens - they realized that things happened that they couldn't control. But were vital to their existence. Changes of seasons, dieing, diseases, etc. So they created individuals (gods)) that could impact these things beyond their control. And they negotiated with them via worship, sacrifices, praying, rules of living, etc. in exchange for their help. This seems consistent across all religions.
And,individuals who had a special role between them and their gods arose - their advocates. In turn, these advocates - priests et. al. - soon realize the power they controlled and could take advantage of. So came wise men, witch doctors, priests, and religion. Different depending upon who created them. Same in terms of how things worked out.
As as observation, stationary people tended to have stationary gods - holy places, local animals, etc. Mobil people tended more to have movable gods that went along with them. Eventually some decided upon one god - but differed between who they preferred. Meanwhile, much of humankind continued with their choice of multiple gods and their own religions.
From my comments, one can judge that I don't have any objections to people choosing their gods to make their lives easier - or at least a course of comfort in difficult times. I do object to their "god advocates" trying to run their lives for their own purposes and rewards. This happens far too often - not always but predominately.
To sum up - I'm OK if there's a god or not. That can help - if it's real or not. I'm not OK with how humankind has made us of them to dominate and kill each other.
No. of Recommendations: 5
But a point of grammar here: I say there never was no God.
The double negative means there is a god.
I think it's pretty safe to say that the lyrics aren't strictly paying attention to the grammar rules in this case, and using normal grammatically incorrect speech. The chorus repeats there is no god three times, a good indication.
No. of Recommendations: 3
I think it's pretty safe to say that the lyrics aren't strictly paying attention to the grammar rules in this case, and using normal grammatically incorrect speech. The chorus repeats there is no god three times, a good indication.Frank Turner is a humanist/atheist. I first came across him doing an interview on the Humanists UK podcast "What I believe".
https://whatibelieve.humanists.uk/https://whatibelieve.humanists.uk/e/frank-turner/There ain't no possible doubt what he is saying in this song ;-)
No. of Recommendations: 2
There ain't no possible doubt what he is saying in this song ;-)
I was chucking to myself and thinking of the songs with all the no-s in it.
I say no, no, no. no. no. no. no. no, NO, no NO no etc., etc., and thinking you have to count all the nos to see what is means. Could it really be yes all this time? :)
No. of Recommendations: 2
there never was no God.
.. it's a southernism; double negatives creating an affirmative. Bless your hearts.
No. of Recommendations: 0
No. of Recommendations: 0
I’m a Mercia boy, myself.
So you know all about Uhtred and Aethelflaed! ;-)
I really liked that show.
No. of Recommendations: 0
“ So you know all about Uhtred and Aethelflaed! ;-)
I really liked that show.”
No but I’ve added it to my list - The Last Kingdom - Netflix. I need a new workout show. Almost done with The Sopranos.
No. of Recommendations: 1
No but I’ve added it to my list - The Last Kingdom - Netflix.
To be fair, it may or may not drive you crazy. Being a UK-ian, you may have (probably do) knowledge about those minor kingdoms, and the uniting of them into a single kingdom. I'm given to understand that the story takes a lot of liberties with the history. But I don't know. Which probably helped me enjoy it more.
