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Author: Urspider   😊 😞
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Subject: BNSF article
Date: 09/22/2023 10:46 AM
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https://www.railwayage.com/freight/class-i/qa-with....

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Author: mungofitch 🐝🐝🐝🐝 SILVER
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Subject: Re: BNSF article
Date: 09/22/2023 12:32 PM
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No mention of DG here for those not interested in BRK information.

For the true rhetor, I guess that counts as apophasis, possibly paralipsis, but not proslepsis?


More seriously, thanks for the rail link. It's a great read. Certainly both interlocutors know vastly more about rails than I will ever manage.

An interesting number in there, for those who like me are always trying to reconcile the bookkeeping with the reality in rails.
He mentions $3.96bn in capex for 2023, of which $2.85bn will have been maintenance capex.
Though I haven't looked it up, you can be sure that this period's depreciation on what they were maintaining will be very small compared to $2.85bn, so naive calculations of free cash flow are always off by a mile in rails.

The big projects to improve resilience in the face of weather "outliers" is very interesting. It's not something I thought about a lot for the railroad.
e.g., "Over the past few years, we have raised over 3,100 miles of track over 12' in areas prone to flooding."
12 feet is quite a bit!

Jim
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Author: nola622   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: BNSF article
Date: 09/22/2023 1:30 PM
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Thanks for posting the article. I had missed the news that BNSF was taking over Montana Rail Link. Or buying out their lease for $2 Billion it sounded like.

It's a small world, as MRL is/was owned by the Washington Companies, which have a David Sokol connection through both Atlas/Seaspan as well as Sokol being an advisor to the family and previous board member of their family foundation. There is also a Matt Rose (retired CEO of BNSF) connection in that he is a member of the Washington Companies board of directors and president of their family foundation.
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Author: Texirish 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: BNSF article
Date: 09/22/2023 1:34 PM
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He mentions $3.96bn in capex for 2023, of which $2.85bn will have been maintenance capex.
Though I haven't looked it up, you can be sure that this period's depreciation on what they were maintaining will be very small compared to $2.85bn, so naive calculations of free cash flow are always off by a mile in rails.


I have long thought the same as Jim - that D&A significantly understated the the real maintenance capex for BNSF. Warren evens said so early on.

But I just looked at the 2023 quarterly reports for BNSF. D&A was $620 million for Q1. Q2 was $653 billion, a 5.3% increase. Scaling forward, 2023 D&A might be around $2650-$2680 if inflation continues.

So the $2850 million maintenance capex for 2023 isn't that far ahead of D&A.

I guess all the heavy total capex in recent years has caused D&A to mostly catch up with real maintenance capex.


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Subject: Re: BNSF article
Date: 09/22/2023 2:24 PM
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Capex depreciated for tax and maintenance is deducted as current expense. This would make maybe a small difference to Charlie but I'm sure he would deduct anything that could be. Years ago remember a case study showed lots of disgression.
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