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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 9:49 AM
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The Associated Press reported that government prosecutors told a judge that the U.S. plans to deport Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a country other than El Salvador after he is released from a Tennessee jail.

Abigail Jackson, Deputy Press Secretary at the White House, called the reporting "fake news": Abrego Garcia was returned to the United States to face trial for the egregious charges against him. He will face the full force of the American justice system -- including serving time in American prison for the crimes he's committed.

In court, the exchange went like this:

Judge Xinis: Wanted to get you on line because I have preliminary questions and want to set schedule. It's an unusual order. First question is for DOJ: What's the plan after release order issues for Abrego?

Dept of Justice: Immigration proceedings and my understanding is removal to third country (not El Salvador).

In TrumpLand, it's all liars telling lies all the time.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 10:11 AM
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In TrumpLand, it's all liars telling lies all the time.

Hating Trump equates to hating America 🇺🇸.
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 11:02 AM
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Hating Trump equates to hating America

Why?

I’m serious here. Why is hating Trump the same as hating America?

Does that apply to every politician? Would hating Mitch McConnell or Ron Desantis be hating America? How about Bernie Sanders or AOC or Gavin Newsom?

—Peter
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 11:18 AM
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Hating Trump equates to hating America

Perhaps the Dopiest and most un-American thing you've ever said and you've said a lot of Dopey things.

You swilled the koolaid with gusto and truly are in a cult.
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Author: g0177325   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 11:20 AM
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I’m serious here. Why is hating Trump the same as hating America

The equivalence principle: Trump = MAGA = Making America Great, so if you hate Trump you must not want to make America great, which must mean you hate America. QED.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 11:41 AM
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Hating Trump equates to hating America 🇺🇸.

For how many felonies have YOU been convicted? Spankee has 34 or more. Or is that higher than you can count?
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 11:44 AM
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if you hate Trump you must not want to make America great

Getting rid of Spankee would make America FANTASTIC !!!
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Author: AlphaWolf   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 11:51 AM
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Hating Trump equates to hating America 🇺🇸.

So, according to you:

If I hate an adjudicated rapist, I hate America.

If I hate a convicted 34-count felon, I hate America.

Heck, if I hate someone who incited an armed insurrection against America, I hate America.

I don’t think “hating America” means what you think it means.

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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 12:35 PM
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In TrumpLand, it's all liars telling lies all the time.

Don’t believe a damned thing they say. Not.a.single.word.

Their lips move. A foul wind blows through their lips. People and institutions are destroyed. Theirs is the script of hell.

And they do this while waving a cross.
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Author: Umm 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 12:42 PM
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"Hating Trump equates to hating America 🇺🇸." - LurkerMom

So you hated America when you hated Obama and Biden? Or was that different?

LOL Stop being a joke that gets laughed at. Do better. Stop destroying America with your ignorance and hate.
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Author: wzambon 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 2:13 PM
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Hating Trump equates to hating America

34 felony convictions
Sexual assault
30,000 documented lies in his first term
Attempted overthrow of the 2020 election….

Yes, I hate him for this and more.

Funny how you love him.

Funny how you assume that hating the president means hating America. Does that hold for the hateful things you said about Barack Obama when he was president?

Or is it only true for criminal presidents who are Republicans?
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 2:19 PM
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Hating Trump equates to hating America 🇺🇸.

You have that exactly backwards.

And I'll explain why (rather than just shoot off a one-liner).

I love this country because it protects me and respects my rights (and those of others). And, frankly, that's the only reason. If it didn't do either of those things, there would be nothing to love**. Someone who has had to escape totalitarianism would understand***. Under the Felon, neither is guaranteed to me. Rule of law is not respected, due process is not respected. The Felon is killing what made America great.

Therefore, if you love the Felon, you HATE America and what it stands for. (Or stood for...past tense.)




**I'm referring to the country as a political entity, not a piece of land.

***I went to primary and secondary school, and was friends, with at least two of them. One from the USSR, the other from Vietnam.
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Author: Lambo   😊 😞
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Date: 06/27/2025 7:06 PM
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If it didn't do either of those things, there would be nothing to love**. Someone who has had to escape totalitarianism would understand***

I once knew a fellow who had lived in a Russian dominated state in Eastern Europe. I think it was Czechoslovakia, but not sure. He had been a psychotherapist there, and he said the most chilling thing was he would have workers who had worked next to someone for 20 years, and one day they were gone. When they inquired about their workmate they were simply told not to ask, but they never saw their workmate again. How could you treat someone who that happened to? What could you say?

Then he told me one day a friend of his told him that the borders were open temporarily and anyone could leave by driving across the border. This was a border with high fences, barbed wire, machine gunned manned guard towers, and a road stretching across a no man's land to the guard station on the other side. He went upstairs, got his wife, and they drove across the border. They didn't take time to pack anything, just got in the car and drove. They spent months in a refugee camp but it was worth it, he told me, as we both drank a beer sitting by the pool after a set of water volley ball in sunny Southern California.

Dammed immigrant.
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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 7:58 PM
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I’m serious here. Why is hating Trump the same as hating America?

Disliking the Trump policies is one thing, you can debate pros and cons to sway the other’s point of view, even in a heated argument and still come out with your opinion intact.
On the other hand President Trump (or any other president) holds the highest duly elected
Office in America. He/she represents America and the Free World and the President should be given
a degree of respect, even while disliking the president.

I said the same at the PA, HATE is a four letter word and I do not hate any one,
not even Obama nor Bill Clinton. I may not agree with their polices or dislike their character
and will say so, but HATE is a powerful anger that destroys. HATE Trump, HATE an American President.
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Author: jerryab   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 8:37 PM
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the President should be given a degree of respect

Respect is earned, not just given.

Spankee has never earned respect. So he is due none.

Position (of any type) is irrelevant. As everyone can tell.

Your claim *the position* deserves respect shows you do not respect the position because every rational person knows he is a fool, an idiot, and totally incompetent. MAGA does not respect the position because they want to destroy the US--and it shows in their actions and words. Yet they--and you--SCREAM for the federal govt to HELP YOU. Well, now there is NO FEDERAL HELP. WHAT WILL YOU, AND THEY, DO ????
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Author: onepoorguy 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 9:14 PM
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The person from the USSR that I knew, his family had an elaborate escape route. I think he was Lithuanian, as I recall. They traveled legitimately, but had to go to one country that would allow them, then another country that would allow them from that second country, and so on...I don't remember if it was 3 steps, or 4, or 5. But his family ended up in Austria, I think. And they never went back.

Which is how he came to be in my junior year English lit class in Colorado.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 9:22 PM
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LurkerMom: ...the President should be given a degree of respect, even while disliking the president.

Umm, this guy?

TRUMP: "We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing."

You must be so proud.
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Author: Carpian   😊 😞
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Date: 06/27/2025 9:39 PM
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He/she represents America and the Free World and the President should be given
a degree of respect, even while disliking the president.


Have you ever looked at his Twitter feed or watched one of his press conferences and seen how he comports himself and talks about others, particularly those who disagree with him, and the juvenile nicknames he gives them? He acts like a 6th-grade bully.

When have we ever had a President who treated people the way he does? When he respects the office of the Presidency and the people he represents and who work hard every day to try to make this country and world a better place--even if you disagree with their path to doing so--and acts in a Presidential and respectful manner toward others, he will get the respect due the office. (Maybe--at this point, he's already done so much damage and disrespected enough people that he probably wouldn't get it even then at this point. But if he'd started that way....)

As has been stated, respect is earned. Even if you're the President. He has not earned it, and he has not given it. The two tend to go hand in hand.

Character matters.

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Author: LurkerMom   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump White House: Lying Liars Who Lie
Date: 06/27/2025 10:07 PM
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TRUMP: "We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing."

You must be so proud.


President Trump made a correct call on a situation even though it was laced with profanity.

SNIP
“Four hours after the ceasefire was supposed to take effect, Israel launched a strike against Iran in retaliation for what it said were two ballistic missiles entering its airspace, launched from Iran. Both were intercepted. Israel’s retaliation destroyed a radar station near Tehran.

Trump was furious. “I’m really unhappy that Israel went out this morning,” he told reporters.
“We’ve got two countries that have been fighting so hard and for so long, that they don’t know what the f*** they’re doing.”

A ceasefire between Iran and Israel now appears to be holding, so yes, I am proud of President Trump’s quest to bring peace between the two warring Countries.







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