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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 5:23 AM
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“ @RobertIger


Dear Bob,

I assume that you have been made aware of this affidavit which was made public earlier today in which a whistleblower states that
@ABC
worked closely with the
@KamalaHarris
campaign in sharing the substance of the questions, avoiding certain topics, agreeing on the staging, committing to fact check
@realDonaldTrump
and not Harris, and more disturbing details.

I find the allegations credible as written and also because the affidavit was apparently made and filed the day prior to the debate and makes mention of Harris’ smaller podium and other details that only became public thereafter.

While I can’t determine the veracity of the allegations, they do match substantively what took place during the debate. The moderators of the debate —
@DavidMuir
and
@LinseyDavis
— have yet to respond to the allegations. Since they have not yet done so, one must draw a negative inference.

In light of the seriousness of the allegations and the implications for this presidential election and for ABC’s reputation and thereby
@Disney
’s and the office of the CEO, I strongly encourage you to launch an immediate investigation of this matter.

Our democracy depends on transparency, particularly with regard to events which can impact the outcome of the presidential election.

I ask on behalf of all voters that you treat these allegations with the seriousness they deserve.

Thank you.

Bill” Note for the usual suspects, I’m not Bill or Bob, I’m just sharing the correspondence, comprende?
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 8:44 AM
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You didn't share a source, and you yourself are not a credible source.

Without a source, this is just a conspiracy theory.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 9:14 AM
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hc-

1. Please organize your copy/paste better so it is easier for us to read. Treat your readers well. This is just slipshod and sloppy. We understand mistakes, but this show you don't care.

2. Where's the affidavit? Who wrote it? Things like this show up all the time and can be apocryphal - and that's what many conservatives on reddit thought. So, so far, we have an unattributed redacted affidavit.

3. No, a negative inference should not be drawn if they haven't responded to whatever this is... yet.

4. Who is Bill?

5. Did Trump's crew get sample questions? Also, sample questions aren't a big deal since any serious preparation anticipates questions.

6. Was Trump's crew aware of any of this? Since they haven't state yay or nay, are we allowed to draw the inference that they were informed? :)

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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 9:42 AM
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Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??


the TITLE of the post followed by, BILL WHO questions. Just priceless.
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 9:44 AM
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the affidavit.

https://twitter.com/DocNetyoutube/status/183535849...
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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:07 AM
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How could I forget that some rando on Xhitter is a reliable source for factual information. My bad.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:10 AM
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Never heard of him before. So he's a hedge fund mgr? who cares?
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:19 AM
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In his letter, fervent Trump supporter Bill Ackman said, "Our democracy depends on transparency."

MAGABOTS say the darnedest things! How can one believe that, "Our democracy depends on transparency" and also support the lying convict Trump? Cognitive dissonance much?

The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims made by Trump during his four-year presidential term, averaging about 21 false claims per day. Is this transparency Bill?

In a single 90-minute debate with Kamala Harris, a fact-checker counted at least 33 false claims made by Trump. Is this transparency Bill?

During a 64-minute news conference in 2024, NPR fact-checkers identified at least 162 misstatements, exaggerations, and outright lies, averaging more than 2 falsehoods per minute! Is this transparency Bill?

PolitiFact awarded Trump its "Lie of the Year" in 2015, 2017, and 2019. FactCheck.org dubbed him the "King of Whoppers." Is this transparency Bill?

Trump said, "There has never been, ever before, an administration that’s been so open and transparent." Politifact rated this statement PANTS ON FIRE - The statement is not accurate and makes a ridiculous claim...

Lack Of Transparency: Trump broke with decades of precedent by refusing to release his tax returns, both as a candidate and as president. Still waiting...

Lack Of Transparency: The Trump administration stopped releasing White House visitor logs. Did Putin stop by? We'll never know...

Lack Of Transparency: Information on topics like climate change, LGBTQ+ resources, and the Affordable Care Act was removed from some government websites under the Trump administration.

Lack Of Transparency: The Trump White House significantly reduced the frequency of press briefings, with long stretches where no official briefings were held.

Lack Of Transparency: Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests: Under Trump, federal agencies censored, withheld, or said they couldn't find records sought through
FOIA requests more often than in previous administrations.

Lack Of Transparency: Personnel changes: Under the Trump administration, government scientists were removed, scientific positions went unfilled, and unqualified individuals were appointed to scientific roles.

Lack Of Transparency: Reassigning researchers: The Agriculture Department reassigned researchers who studied topics that didn't align with Trump's policies.

Lack Of Transparency: There were over 150 documented instances of the Trump administration attempting to censor, misrepresent, or stifle science between 2016-2018.

I could go on and on...

"Our democracy depends on transparency." If you believe this how could you possibly support Donald Trump, Bill? Bill? Anyone?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jun/04/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC87930...
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:26 AM
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You didn't share a source, and you yourself are not a credible source.

Without a source, this is just a conspiracy theory. - pete


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I don't know or necessarily care who Mark Penn is. I can still read what was posted and have an opinion about. The hypersonic missile thing I haven't heard about and I could fact check that. But other than that, what's left is a coherent opinion I tend to agree with.

I wonder if tommorow's Ministry of Truth would allow me to read it?
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:31 AM
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" I wonder if tommorow's Ministry of Truth would allow me to read it?"


good morning, just so you know, at least half the posts I share here are deleted by FB, the public square, which continues to manipulate the narrative in its effort to rig another election outcome. Example coming.
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Author: Banksy 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:39 AM
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Never heard of him before. So he's a hedge fund mgr? who cares?

Good question...

Ackman makes money by charging people who are too dumb to know what the Efficient Market Theory is obscene fees.

Most hedge fund managers are simply good at marketing themselves rather than generating above average risk adjusted returns.

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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 10:56 AM
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Lack Of Transparency: Information on topics like climate change, LGBTQ+ resources, and the Affordable Care Act was removed from some government websites under the Trump administration. - Bansky

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This one caught my attention. Until now I figured the forthcoming Ministry of Truth would be focused on preventing "misinformation" from being read by the weak minded. However, the above example suggests that publishing of "approved" information is compulsory.

Food for thought as the calls for censorship get louder.
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Author: Lambo 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 11:55 AM
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Ackman makes money by charging people who are too dumb to know what the Efficient Market Theory is obscene fees.

Most hedge fund managers are simply good at marketing themselves rather than generating above average risk adjusted returns.


Yes, and they get special tax breaks which might influence his opinion toward Trump. I'm not sure how this "letter' got into social media. Since the affidavit was supposed to have been filed before the debate, the signer may not be disposed favorably to Harris and, if it is real, had someone coaching him. The conservatives I read were skeptical, which was refreshing.

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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 12:07 PM
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I don't know or necessarily care who Mark Penn is.

Nor do I. But I do wonder why you're bringing this guy into the conversation. Isn't the topic about some guy named Ackerman allegedly sending a letter to Bob Iger, the CEO of the Walt Disney Company, who owns the ABC television network. What does this Penn guy have to do with it?

I can still read what was posted and have an opinion about.

Of course. We're all entitled to our own opinions. And we're free to share those opinions. We're also free to criticize the opinions others have chosen to publicly share.

The hypersonic missile thing I haven't heard about and I could fact check that.

What does this have to do with Ackerman and this whistleblower?

But other than that, what's left is a coherent opinion I tend to agree with.

Again, wha????

I wonder if tommorow's Ministry of Truth would allow me to read it?

The "Ministry of Truth" bullshit strawman. It's a free country. People are allowed to lie. But you are not allowed to escape the consequences of your lies. Most of the time, the worst consequence of lying is having someone point out the lie and subject the liar to public ridicule and humiliation. Unfortunately, there is a vocal minority in the country for whom public ridicule and humiliation seem to be a badge of honor. Perhaps it's a rite of passage into the Trump cult. Can't get into the cult until you've learned to unashamedly lie constantly. Whatever. Unless your lies happen under oath or cause some actual damages, that's the extent of the consequences. No one is forcing anyone else to tell the truth, they're just pointing out lies.

Lastly, my name is Peter. Nicknames are reserved for those who are close friends, or when the one using the nickname chooses to use it publicly (as with the Bill and Bob at the beginning of this thread). I do not use the nickname "Pete" publicly. My public persona is Peter. I sign virtually every post with my name -- the one to which you are replying is one of the rare exceptions. I played around with names the last time we conversed a bit, but clearly I was too subtle. If you want to earn my respect, you will use the name I use for myself. And that is Peter, not Pete. I will afford you the same courtesy going forward, using Mike unless you say otherwise.

--Peter
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 2:50 PM
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Several of the usual suspects don’t know who Bill Ackman is. Did msnbc cover this story at all? Perhaps albaby will be kind enough to try to educate some of you? https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=three%20college%...
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Author: hclasvegas   😊 😞
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Date: 09/16/2024 3:11 PM
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" White House condemns university presidents after contentious congressional hearing on antisemitism
The presidents of Harvard University, the University of Pennsylvania and MIT testified before Congress amid an increase in antisemitism on college campuses."


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white...
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 4:04 PM
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So it seems an ABC employee signed what is being described as an affidavit on September 9 - the day before the debate - and placed it in the mail on that same day so there would be proof he called all this before the debate happened. Interesting.
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 4:11 PM
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A true Media is watchdog for "Democracy!"

Liberals can't stand "democracy!"

Typical Putins they are.
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 5:34 PM
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So it seems

Once again -- Source?
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 6:47 PM
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But I do wonder why you're bringing this guy into the conversation. Isn't the topic about some guy named Ackerman allegedly sending a letter to Bob Iger, the CEO of the Walt Disney Company, who owns the ABC television network. What does this Penn guy have to do with it? - Peter

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My bad. Here is what I was responding to (post #26175 by hclasvegas) and I attached it to the wrong thread.

https://www.shrewdm.com/MB?pid=-2&previousPostID=5...

” Mark Penn @Mark_Penn (https://x.com/Mark_Penn)

We are witnessing a complete failure of both American diplomacy and deterrence in the Mideast.
The Houthis just launched a hypersonic missile against Tel Aviv.
Hamas, emboldened by US waffling, refused to accept any US deals. Hezbollah refused to stop sending what is now 100 rockets a day from Lebanon.
And Israel is left to fight a three front war directed by an oil-enriched Iran.


Finally, there is this,

If you want to earn my respect, you will use the name I use for myself. And that is Peter, not Pete. I will afford you the same courtesy going forward, using Mike unless you say otherwise.

--Peter


I find it amusing that you care so much about what some irrelevant, unknown poster on some obscure platform in the backwater of the internet uses as your name. It not like I was using pejorative terms like others on your side reliably do. When you went through your mikey phase, I noticed but complaining about it never occurred to me. I guess I am secure enough to not care.

I am dismissive of others calling me a cultist or enjoy being laughed at, etc just as I am dismissive of your use the endearing term, "mikey". It really just does not matter. I suggest you trying to adopt a little tolerance and chill, be like mikey.

All that aside, I enjoy bantering with you and many of the other board liberals, the banter is usually entertaining and sometimes it exposes me to new information or of alternate analyses of events of the day.

So Peter, I will try to do better because that is just the type of guy I am, not because I am making a futile attempt to gain your respect. Peace.


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Author: ptheland   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Ackman letter to Bob Iger , rigged ??
Date: 09/16/2024 8:04 PM
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I find it amusing that you care so much about what some irrelevant, unknown poster on some obscure platform in the backwater of the internet uses as your name.

Here's the thing about names.

When you name something, you assert control over it. You name your pet. You name your children. Many people name their homes and cars. (For example, my car is named Trophy Wife. It doesn't love me and wants all of my money.) They assert dominion or control over all of those things.

That is part of why Trump has to find names for all of his opponents. He attempts to assert control over people by re-naming them. It's not just a fun little thing for a sociopath like Trump. It may be a subconscious thing to him, as his mental illness is mostly untreated, but it is very real. He tries to claim control by re-naming people. Yes, generally it's a play on their existing name, but to the extent it sticks, it's still a form of control or domination -- a way to demean people. It's the same as schoolyard bullies taunting their victims by calling them names - exerting control over them.

So yes, I'm a bit sensitive to naming.

--Peter

PS - Also, using Pete is how my father and I could tell which one of us was in trouble with mom. When she yells "PETE", my dad is in trouble. When she yells "PETER", I'm the one in trouble.
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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Date: 09/17/2024 2:19 AM
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Per Ohio’s governor, all the bomb threats came from overseas and all…were hoaxes.

https://twitter.com/x/migrate?tok=7b2265223a222f67...

But it’s all the fault of Trump and the cat memes.
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