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Author: AlphaWolf 🐝🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: October non-surprise
Date: 10/02/2024 4:13 PM
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A federal judge in Washington, DC, has released the most comprehensive narrative to date of the 2020 election conspiracy case against Donald Trump, outlining what special counsel Jack Smith describes as the former president’s “private criminal conduct.”

Yep, now we see the criminal evidence that Trump is an insurrectionist traitor.

Not much of a surprise to real Americans.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/02/politics/jack-smith...
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Author: WatchingTheHerd HONORARY
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Subject: Re: October non-surprise
Date: 10/02/2024 5:55 PM
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I have one quibble with Smith's briefing right out of the gate. In the first paragraph of Section I on page 3:

When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office. With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost—Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (the “targeted states”)

Smith's causality here on the printed page is not technically correct from what I recall about the entire chain of events.

As I understand it, Trump's efforts to subvert the RESULT of the 2020 election began BEFORE the election, not as a consequence of actually having lost it. He was EXPECTING to lose, thought the losing margin was going to be small enough to stir controversy and adopted a strategy of exponentially magnifying that controversy in the hopes that enough Republicans in enough swing states would go along and overturn their own electoral slates. He began having conversations with his insane clown posse of lawyers sometime in early October 2020, not the day after the election.

More to come but that jumps out at me.


WTH
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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: October non-surprise
Date: 10/02/2024 5:59 PM
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WatchingTheHerd: As I understand it, Trump's efforts to subvert the RESULT of the 2020 election began BEFORE the election, not as a consequence of actually having lost it.

Still going through it but suspect Smith is sticking to crimes he's charging rather than the entire resume of Trump's J6-related criminal behavior.

Maybe albaby1 can chime in.
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Author: WatchingTheHerd HONORARY
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Subject: Re: October non-surprise
Date: 10/02/2024 6:37 PM
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Never mind... On page 5.

Although his multiple conspiracies began after election day in 2020, the defendant laid the
groundwork for his crimes well before then. Leading into the election, the defendant’s private and
Campaign advisors, including i (then a private citizen) and (the defendant’s
Campaign manager), informed him that it would be a close contest and that it was unlikely to be
finalized on election day—in part because of the time needed to process large numbers of mail-in
ballots prompted by the COVID-19 pandemic.” They also told the defendant that the initial returns
on election night might be misleading—that is, that he might take an early lead in the vote count
that would diminish as mail-in ballots were counted because his own supporters favored in-person
voting, while supporters of his opponent, Joseph R. Biden, favored mail-in ballots



WTH
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Author: commonone 🐝🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: October non-surprise
Date: 10/02/2024 8:20 PM
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WatchingTheHerd: Never mind... On page 5.

Yeah, and stuff from August 2020, with Trump in interviews saying that there was "no way" you can mail-in a vote "without massive cheating." And at the RNC Convention in August 2020 when he again claimed, "the only way they can take this election away from us is if its a rigged election."

Gonna' take a break and digest this stuff. I think I may have misidentified one of the individuals as Trump earlier.
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