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In March 2025, in the thread "Re: OT, out", Umm asked the members: "Do you think it is because America is made up of magical soil that makes businesses based in America magically profitable?" This week it is put to everyone again. The button below opens the small thread re-asking it - read what others have said so far, then give your own answer as an ordinary reply.
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Author: BenGrahamCracker ✸  😊 😞
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Subject: Gayner talk, May 2025
Date: 07/05/25 10:31 AM
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Tom Gayner speaking at the Acatis-Value-Konferenz in Frankfort, May 2025 (the conference motto: Keine Chance ohne Risiko). Acatis is a German / Swiss value-oriented manager.

YouTube: ACATIS Value Conference 2025, Investing in the Markel style, Thomas S. Gayner, Markel Group (ACATIS Investment)

Gayner's not an outstanding speaker. He falls behind his slides, and I think he pitched it a little basic for that room. He has a fondness for slogans and mission statements and platitudes that I find annoying. Charlie Munger he ain't. So there's not a lot new here for someone who's reading the filings, but I did note a couple of points:

-The importance of reserving
-Reporting for an insurer is a "wrestling match" between the company's income statement and balance sheet

Markel claims their intrinsic value is something like $2,400 or 1.85 current BV, which seems optimistic to me. They underperform their specialty peers on underwriting; the investment portfolio has done OK but not outstanding; we don't really know how well the Ventures businesses are doing. At 1.5x book, I'm not adding here.

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