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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 9:33 AM
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...access to some of our nation's top secret intelligence documents, including some marked with the highest level of classification, top secret/sensitive compartmented information.

The Secret Service reported that “of the approximately 48,000 guests who visited Mar-a-Lago between January 2021 and May 2022, while classified documents were at the property, only 2,200 had their names checked and only 2,900 passed through magnetometers,” the prosecution filing says.

And still republicans here have not once criticized Orange Jesus for his outrageous conduct or even hinted that it should make him ineligible to hold public office ever again.

Most republicans here who said Hillary Clinton should never be president because of her mishandling of government documents -- which, as it eventually turned out, were three incorrectly marked classified documents -- or deserved prison time have yet to say the same of Trump or to even speak one critical word of behavior that was magnitudes worse than Clinton's.

Perhaps now with the details that 48,000 people had open access to the nation's most highly classified intelligence documents, stored in an unlocked bathroom and on an open ballroom stage, will finally find the courage to state the obvious: Trump should never be president again.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/02/special-c...

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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 10:33 AM
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Perhaps now with the details that 48,000 people had open access to the nation's most highly classified intelligence documents, stored in an unlocked bathroom and on an open ballroom stage, will finally find the courage to state the obvious: Trump should never be president again.

Surely you realize that that is not how cults function.

If Trump really wants to shore up his MAGA support he will shoot somebody on 5th Avenue.
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Author: g0177325 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 11:49 AM
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If Trump really wants to shore up his MAGA support he will shoot somebody on 5th Avenue.

I wonder what would happen if Trump shot and killed Biden during their first debate for the 2024 election. Would MAGA finally abandon him? Would the GOP in Congress? Would evangelicals? God forgives all sins, right?
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Author: bighairymike   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 1:36 PM
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Perhaps now with the details that 48,000 people had open access to the nation's most highly classified intelligence documents, stored in an unlocked bathroom and on an open ballroom stage, will finally find the courage to state the obvious:... CO

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OK, here is bhm stating the obvious

"The country was doing better under Trump, than it is under Biden, and the voters are taking notice."


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Author: Dope1   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 1:49 PM
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The country’s most highly classified documents?

He can tell us he doesn’t know anything about classified documents without telling us he doesn’t know anything about classified documents.

These same guys saw nothing wrong in Hillary!’s server.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 2:11 PM
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bighairymike: OK, here is bhm stating the obvious

"The country was doing better under Trump, than it is under Biden, and the voters are taking notice."


Ah, the cult replies.

By which metrics, besides the price of gasoline -- which declined when workers here and around the world were either unemployed or working from home and students were attending classes remotely -- or inflation -- which has declined from around 9% to 3%?

Even Larry Kudlow over on Fox was praising president Biden: "We had a blowout jobs report, more than twice the consensus expectation. I know that many of my conservative friends are trying to drill holes in this report. But you know what, folks? It is what it is. It's a very strong report. Not every economic stat should be viewed through a political lens."

Trump lost 2.7 million jobs. And when millions of people are out of work nobody's buying anything and inflation is low. And wages are flat or declining. Semi-silver lining.

Funny, too, isn't it that the U.S. is pumping record amounts of crude but gasoline prices are staying stubbornly elevated. Well, maybe not so funny considering oil companies are posting record profits.

BTW, still waiting to hear you (and others) criticize Don the Con for stealing the nation's most top secret intelligence (not to mention leaving it lying around for anyone to see, sharing some with writers, refusing to return it under subpoena, instructing others to obstruct their investigation, and trying to have surveillance video evidence destroyed).

But, what, it's only been a year and a half of waiting.
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Author: very stable genius   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 2:28 PM
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BHM: "The country was doing better under Trump, than it is under Biden, and the voters are taking notice."

Is that so?...

Trump's job creation record was the worst of any American president on record,
no other modern president has left the U.S. with a smaller workforce than it had when they took office. (Jimmy Carters numbers look stellar by comparison.)
All while adding $8 trillion in new debt in just 4 years. (Also a record!)

Even many repubicans think he's a joke...

"The amount he's added to the national debt is indecent." ~Mike Pompeo
"I hate him (Trump) passionately!" ~Tucker Carlson
"He's a &@#$ing moron!" ~Rex Tillerson
"We're on the verge of having someone take over the conservative movement who is a con artist." ~Marco Rubio
"Trump is utterly amoral. A serial philanderer." ~Ted Cruz
"You know how you make America great again? Tell Donald Trump to go to hell." ~Linsey Graham
"They think Trump is a laughing fool. And they’re fully prepared to take advantage of him. I think they believe he’s an easy mark." ~John Bolton (Naming the leaders of China, Russia and North Korea as examples.)
"Donald is cruel, all he wants to do is appeal to his base. He has no principles. None. None. And his base, I mean my God,
if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this.
His go--mned tweeting and lying, oh my god. I’m talking too freely, but you know. The changing stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy shit." ~Maryanne Trump (Donalds Sister)


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Author: Umm 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 6:13 PM
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"OK, here is bhm stating the obvious

"The country was doing better under Trump, than it is under Biden, and the voters are taking notice.""


Thanks for proving him correct that the cultists like yourself would be silent on the subject because you do not have the courage to state the obvious on the topic he was talking about.

As for your attempt at misdirection, you cannot even get that right. It is hilariously wrong. Like almost every objective metric a person could come up with would show you wrong.

What I find so sad is a few months ago you seemed to be interested in actually using better information sources instead of ones that took advantage of you. Apparently, that didn't last long and you decided you would rather uses sources that lie to you and make you comfortable with your ignorance rather that inform you.
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Author: Umm 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 6:19 PM
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"He can tell us he doesn’t know anything about classified documents without telling us he doesn’t know anything about classified documents."

BTW, the fact that you are misrepresenting what he said about classified documents doesn't mean he doesn't understand classified documents. It means you have poor reading comprehension and usually fail at grasping your opponents' arguments. Why do you have such a hard time understanding what your opponents are actually saying? I am genuinely curious. Why do you fail at it so often?

"These same guys saw nothing wrong in Hillary!’s server."

More misrepresentations by Dope1. Thanks for once again demonstrating your inability to actually understand what people say.

Also, you also fail to realize you are clearly demonstrating the OPs point that as a cultist you wouldn't have the courage to apply the standard you used with Clinton on Trump.
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Author: ges 🐝  😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/03/2024 10:42 PM
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"The country was doing better under Trump, than it is under Biden, and the voters are taking notice."

Sure, toss out a meaningless statement backed up by nothing.

It only appears 'true' if you live entirely in the RW bubble.
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Author: commonone 🐝 HONORARY
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/04/2024 11:32 AM
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Dope1: The country’s most highly classified documents?

He can tell us he doesn’t know anything about classified documents without telling us he doesn’t know anything about classified documents.


Looks like you never actually read the charging documents. No surprise, you're willfully ignorant of the crimes of Orange Jesus.

The charging documents summarize each document removed by your Orange Jesus — without revealing its secrets — and also include their classification marking, including details on who could view it.

Some of these documents are so sensitive that even their classification markings were redacted.

The fifth document listed by prosecutors, for example, is top secret, and bears two additional rules: it can not be shared with US allies (NORFORN) and is revealing enough of spying methods that the originating agency controls its further dissemination (ORCON).

Seven other documents listed have these classification markings removed. Secrets like these are so potentially damaging that only officials, service members, and contractors with the appropriate clearance level and need-to-know can view them, and only then in a secured vault, sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF.

Tell me, please, is Mar-a-Lago an authorized area to view these secrets?

No.

Tell me, please, are an unlocked bathroom or an open ballroom stage at Mar-a-Lago authorized areas to view these secrets?

Again, no.

Dope1: These same guys saw nothing wrong in Hillary!’s server.

We've gone over this ad nauseum. Hillary did not take a single classified document, all but three of the "classified" documents which were sent to her were not deemed classified at the time they were sent to her in email chains (they were up-classified much later),and the three documents that were deemed to contain classified information at the time someone else sent them to her did not have correct classified markings or classification headers, as required. Buried inside of an email chain, there was no way for her to immediately see they contained classified information.

I have said it was stupid of her to not use government email but as James Comey said, no one would ever be indicted for that behavior. If the FBI indicted people for being stupid or for using private email to conduct government business, the number of people open to charges would be endless (including, incidentally, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner -- who an oversight panel said had been using WhatsApp as part of his official duties — a violation of the law).

Finally, I still don't see your condemnation of Trump.



https://apnews.com/article/biden-classified-docume...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-kept-documen...
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Author: sheila727   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: Trump Gave Access to 48,000 Visitors
Date: 02/09/2024 10:59 AM
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Perhaps now with the details that 48,000 people had open access to the nation's most highly classified intelligence documents, stored in an unlocked bathroom and on an open ballroom stage, will finally find the courage to state the obvious: Trump should never be president again.

I don't think that will ever happen. I suspect that the overwhelming majority of MAGA-cultists are unable to admit to themselves that they were so dramatically suckered....and for so long, so profoundly unable to distinguish between his lies and reality. It would be too devastating. The only alternative is to continue swallowing his lies that he hasn't done anything wrong.....but that if he did, the laws don't apply to him.
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