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Author: Captkerosene   😊 😞
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Subject: New Direction?
Date: 09/19/2024 1:45 PM
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I can't help but wonder if CM was actually the optimist in the duo. Will WEB become even more defensive without his influence?
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Author: EVBigMacMeal   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: New Direction?
Date: 09/19/2024 2:45 PM
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It’s an interesting question. They were certainly independent thinkers and had many well publicised differences in stock picks that we know about.

Warren wouldn’t buy Costco.

Warren sold Wells Fargo but Charlie was happy to tolerate a little bad behaviour.

Warren reluctantly allowed the BYD purchase.

Charlie thought Warren tinkered too much around the edges on things that made little difference like the square negative yield bonds.

Charlie struck me as more of a deep roller and risk taker and Warren a little more prudent.

But probably 99% in agreement most of the time. An incredible double filter that sidestepped so much trouble and setbacks.

Must have been a really hard year for Warren without Charlie. Perhaps unrelated but Berkshire has become more prudent in the last year. Maybe not unrelated. We will never know. Sandy Gottesman has previously commented on Berkshire - post Buffett - might take a little more risk. Again probably won’t be that different.

Certainly, in hindsight I’m glad Warren didn’t take out a margin loan to load up on Alibaba at 20 times earnings. But equally, $100 Bullion Costco gain would have been good.

Together they bought Apple, BYD, Sees, GEICO, Coca-Cola, built the world’s greatest insurance group and one or two other achievements! So I guess they were essentially like two peas from the same pod.

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Author: longtimebrk   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: New Direction?
Date: 09/19/2024 3:04 PM
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"Charlie thought Warren tinkered too much around the edges on things that made little difference like the square negative yield bonds."

Squarz! I think Charlie said Warren was bored when he concocted these.


A blast from the past. I remember discussing that on one of the old boards:

https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~igiddy/cases/berkshir...

"May 22, 2002

WARREN E. BUFFETT wants to borrow up to $287.5 million, and he thinks he should pay a negative interest rate on the money. That is, he thinks the lenders should pay him money. And what do the lenders get in return, aside from negative cash flow? They receive the right to buy shares in Berkshire Hathaway at a premium over the current market price. That right will be good for five years, by which time, the lenders will hope, Berkshire stock will have risen enough to make the investment a good one

The offering is a private placement that was unveiled to institutional investors yesterday afternoon by Goldman, Sachs, which designed the structure. In its announcement, Berkshire Hathaway said it was "the first-ever negative-coupon security." It is being offered in a private placement only to institutional buyers. The exact pricing is expected to be disclosed today.

Under the proposal made to investors, Berkshire would pay perhaps 3 percent a year on the bonds it is issuing. But the investor would also receive a warrant allowing the purchase of Berkshire stock.

To keep the warrant alive, investors would have to pay a higher rate, perhaps 3.75 percent, at the same time Berkshire made the interest payments. The net effect would be that Berkshire would receive a negative interest rate.

• The warrant is expected to be priced at about a 12.5 percent premium over Berkshire's current stock price. The deal was disclosed after the market closed yesterday, with Berkshire shares up $300, to $77,900, in New York Stock Exchange trading."
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Subject: Re: New Direction?
Date: 09/23/2024 6:43 PM
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Warren wouldn’t buy Costco.
Warren sold Wells Fargo but Charlie was happy to tolerate a little bad behaviour.
Warren reluctantly allowed the BYD purchase.
Charlie thought Warren tinkered too much around the edges on things that made little difference like the square negative yield bonds.
Charlie struck me as more of a deep roller and risk taker and Warren a little more prudent.
But probably 99% in agreement most of the time. An incredible double filter that sidestepped so much trouble and setbacks.


I have been thinking about this post since I read it a few days ago. I think that’s because I had a workplace compatriot at three different locations, and we were both better together than either one of us was by ourself. He would say the same thing, I know because he has.

So concern #1 is: Suppose Warren was better with Charlie than he will be by himself? I’m pretty sure that will actually be true.

Concern #2 is: There are probably a lot more companies which do not thrive once the legendary founder pass away or leave than those that do. Apple & Microsoft & Amazon are among those which have, but has anyone looked at Intel, Paramount, SONY, American Airlines, HP, not to state the obvious latter-day failures like Kodak, Sears, K-Mart, Yahoo, and so on. I know, I know, BRK is different. Yes it is! And it will have momentum, at least for a while, but will the magic of capital allocation, intuition, and patience continue under a new regime? No way to know, really.

Yes, I have ever confidence in Warren’s ability to choose his replacement. Then again, I thought Iger would do OK in that regard at Disney. And Schultz at Starbucks. And Welch, and …

Anyway, just wante to toss in my 2¢, now at 2.4¢ with inflation and all.
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Author: richinmd   😊 😞
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Subject: Re: New Direction?
Date: 09/24/2024 3:33 PM
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I have been thinking about this post since I read it a few days ago. I think that’s because I had a workplace compatriot at three different locations, and we were both better together than either one of us was by ourself. He would say the same thing, I know because he has.


That can be very true. I worked with a few people where we just clicked. It didn't relate to a common background but just the way we thought. In one case the engineer seemed to know what my question was before I finished and once he started his answer I knew exactly what he was talking about. With another engineer it was so bad I just gave up talking to him.

In another case we sketched out how we were going to exchange data, ran our two software apps and it worked the first time. That never happens because there is usually some kind of data mismatch (which bit goes where). I think we ended up testing it more than normal because we couldn't believe it didn't have a bug.

I've never wanted to be the leader since I'm not a people person but I'm strong with technical stuff and figuring out strange problems so I always preferred to be the secondary person.

Also often coworkers just aren't honest with each other, especially now, so you often don't get true opinions or see true flaws in software or whatever it is you are working on.
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